Can someone Help me ?

Yeah, it is technically just the same as looking at porn but don't worry about it. Just learn from that fact and keep pushing forward!

Stay strong man!

 

As long as you didn’t masturbate/cum over it then no that is not a relapse.

Keep going, you have done well to keep 4/5 day streaks. Well done and keep it up.

 

Since there was no M or O in this, and it is not really P I would say no it’s not a relapse or a counter reset. It is edging though which is something you should avoid, as it will lead to MO at the very least, as well as P.

 

Hi, I just created an account because I am tired of the cycle I keep falling into. I feel like I can't go more then a week without masterbating and then I lose motivation and just feel crapy. Do you have any advice for me to get started?

 

No worries. I understand why you did... it’s really hard not to look at pictures and all the sexy stuff. But if you avoid that too it will really help it’s all triggers which could lead you to relapse. But relapsing will just make you feel horrible.

 

20 days is great so keep it up! Yes now you have a great opportunity to do something about it and not make porn a problem in your life so keep on going

 

[☡2023: Ignore the links, it's the same one's you've read. Just leaving them here for context]

Well here's my response to that: https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?threads/seven-days-now-what.183685/#post-1566190

https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.p...rt-to-reach-long-streaks.189587/#post-1622848



The fact is your mind doesn't know what porn is, it just knows stimuli and it just so happens that porn is the number 1 thing that we've used. Nudes are essentially the same as porn to your mind. It still gives you dopamine and keeps the neural pathways in your brain (the ones that you're trying to kill) alive.

You just want to avoid anything that continues to feed that shit which can damn near be anything to some extant. For me personally, staring at fully clothed pictures of some celebrities is something I used to do because "its not porn" but it was pretty much just as bad because it was strengthening that same neural pathway.

So it really can be damn near anything and nudes are a no brainer on that list. But even things like staring at women and lusting over them like that is something you want to try and avoid.

It doesn't mean every single small thing like that is the same as porn but you should make an effort to avoid all that stuff as much as possible. Especially things like nudes and bikini pics or anything where your just staring at a woman on a screen for the wrong reason.

This is where what I said in those links come in because counting days doesn't represent progress properly at all. You should try your damn best to not do smaller things like stare at a woman on the street but if you do, don't make a big deal out of it, just try not to let it happen again. But at the same time if you keep doing that its definitely slowing progress but not as much as porn. The counter just doesn't represent that stuff accurately.

So basically just try to avoid all forms of lusting over women (especially nudes because that really is damn near porn) but if you do slip up just learn from it and move on. You're not suddenly "back to day 0" like some people would tell you, but it's also not like that stuff is fine either so its a balancing act.

Just simply focus on the current day and do your best within that day to avoid feeding those neural pathways that you're trying to kill. But if you do slip up in any sort of way weather that's full on PMO or just staring at a girl you see, just learn from the mistake and move on. No need for it to be anything beyond that. Just learn and continue forward.

Best of luck man! Keep going and stay strong!

 

imo, the idea is to abstain from everything that gets you turned on -- until you're out of the woods.

 

good post!!

 

That's all fine, I'm just talking about staring at some chick on the street or something but if you're actually talking to them its fine. You can kinda get a feel for when you're doing things from a genuine place versus just lusting over someone so you'll know what's right and wrong just by feel.

 

Glad it helped