Escorts are better then going on a date? huh

With that mindset one would be basically asking a girl to be a cheap prostitute, because all it is about is sex after the date. Lmao, that's just being a jerk, really. From that point of view, of course paying an escort makes more sense.

However, don't listen to that bullshit. A relationship is something different. Fucking an escort is not a relationship, it's paying for a service. Taking someone out on a date, you know, maybe be generous for once and pay for one drink or something is fine, just be smart about it.

 

I think the mgtow (or whatever that is), is a really bad movement, it's not good for you, for your growth and for your psychological health. And it's not good for being a man.
It's a movement that dwells and bases itself on hate, it's just negative, not useful.

 

Dont agree with you at all Mattew, in a countries where you will loose everything if a woman decides to divorce you, or a GIRLFRIEND decides to leave you after you spend 1 year together in Your flat - you gotta be careful.

Also, all judges are against man, you will loose your kids and pay money so another man can raise them with your ex for free.

Theres nothing manly about getting yourself in a possition you ca legally be raped if someone else decides your time has come because she "does not feel it anymore"

Mgtow is very relevant unless you are blind.

 

I disagree. Sexual history is a big deal to disclose before marriage. I guess it is how open and honest you want your marriage to be. To each there own I guess.

 

That right there keeps me on the fence about pursuing a relationship. It took decades to get where I am financially. The thought that at least half of it can disappear with just the simple phrase “I just don’t feel it anymore” encourages me to be very careful. Overly cautious in chosing a mate is better than having to give half my assets to someone who hates my guts.

Being single and celibate the rest of my life is fine with me if I can’t find the right person. Don’t need a woman and don’t need sex. Life is good as it is. The right woman would enhance it but the wrong woman would be hell on earth.

 

Honesty is not the issue if you tell her...

 

I agree, those are big problems.

You obviously solve them in many other ways, not pursuing escorts instead of girls. That should be pretty obvious, an it's why i think mgtow are resentful haters.
I understand and agree with the problems they bring up, but i think they just don't solve any problems...

 

Im sorry Mathew but... can you describe those many ways of solving those problems?

Do you even realize there are countries where if you just live with a girl in a same flat and she decides to leave you, she can sue you for your wealth?

Im affraid you just made up your mind about mgtow and bend a reality to fit your opinions.

For me a real mgtow should be in a celibate.

 

Then you don't even need nofap. Just masturbate to porn and go meet escorts.

 

A lot of relationships are not far removed from prostitution to be honest - its a mutual arrangement based on exchange of resources.

True love is out there and requires hard work and personal growth and time.

The ultimate freedom and happiness goes beyond partnership, it is marriage to God or the infinite.

 

I've thought about and fantasised about seeing an escort but not going to do it. In this cold weather, the last thing I want is an escort. In this kind of weather, I want a relationship, I want someone I want to be cosy with. Yes relationships are hard work but

I would agree with you if I was in a bad mood but I'm not. Maybe I'm a hopeless romantic but I believe there a right person for everyone, all we have to do is believe we will find someone someday and don't bitterness or cynicism to take over.

 

Man I am glad I am not alone too. If I could turn back time and make different choices I would. What's your story? How did you end up visiting escorts? And how are you doing today?

 

I was a virgin till 27 and had no female friends or connection till that time.

At 30 I started seeing escorts and have done between relationships till early this year Im early 40s now.

70 percent of my experiences have been positive - enjoyable sex and good conversation. When you don't get on with the girl or theres no attraction etc its horrible and soul destroying.

This greatly helped be feel more confident with women, so I don't regret that time. I've had 3 medium term relationships with women that I believe I instigated off the back of that confidence.

Now Im starting to see escorts as a parallel to porn and not great for self esteem so I have stopped though the temptation is still there.

I have no regrets for the past but want to make a more healthy future.

 

Bitterness and cynicism are certainly two things that have crept into my life. I need to remember there are those that have had long fulfilling marriages. It is possible. I just need to be careful and patient.

I am wondering what you disagree with in my statement??? Basically I stated that I’m on the fence and very cautious. Being rash about jumping into a relationship can lead to trouble. I think that’s an accurate statement. Perhaps you’re reading something into my statement that isn’t there. I didn’t say “No way, never”. I said caution is the way to go.

Just curious about what brought on your reply.

 

A Prostitute in Malta told me " the fastest a man ever gets dressed is when he has just finished with a hooker" not sure it has any relevance but i thought I would share.
And no I did not bonk her.

 

Thank for sharing your deep insights, but no, thanks. I apreciate your well thought out reasoning. No need to reply to me anymore, you made yourself clear 100% already.

 

thanks to your posts useful

 

It's an extreme, in the same exact way meeting escort instead of a normal girl, because of the dangers, is an extreme.

My answer looks stupid to you in the same way your question about how to solve those problem looks stupid to me. I mean, really?
You can have a pre-matrimonial contract, you can tell the girl you are not going to marry, and many other ways.

The fact is, if you do not intend to have kids at the moment, you don't even have to worry! The solution is to meet an escort because a date with a girl is a 100 dollar expensive? That is so stupid, you can go out with a girl spending literally zero money, or you can just let her pay her part. All this thing looks so stupid and coming from crybabies.

The problem here is not the girl, is man behaving like child and not being able to speak for themselves.

You don't want to spend a 100 dollar? Don't spend them, and tell her you don't want to spend money, if she don't like it that's her problem, she's the wrong one. I mean did all your balls drop off?
You can go out with her and bring her to Mcdonalds, or even bring you food from home, if she likes you she doesn't fucking care!
If she mind about you not spending 100 dollars that mean she does not like you and does not give a fuck about you!

Al this mgtow guys just think so low of themselves and probably lost their balls in a lady bag...

 

In my country ita not a problem to have a relationship without any legal problems. Its not like that all around the world. Also, please, stop projecting on me.

Im all for loving relationships, im against payed sex and Im over 1 year free of PMO plus I stopped all my addictions like coffee, alcohol, smoking, weed all at one single day and never returned. My name is Epic Fight for a reason, no need to front me mate.

Be well

 

I'm not fighting anyone, you started by telling me my idea of mgtow is just make up of thin air and i bend reality around that...

But actually mgtow are seen as resentful haters by many, so you shouldn't have said i bend reality around my made up opinion maybe, if yu don't want to get in a discussion.

Why did you project on me that i bend reality basing on stupid opinions?