Karezza / NoNut > NoFap

Nofap, nonut, whatever they are all inferior, the ultimate goal is to have perfect mental purity and strictly no wet dreams, that is what brings the most results, when the sexual desire is transcended

 

You never have a wet dream because you relapse too often.

Sex is not worth it, total retention brings far too many long term benefits like:

1) Increased memory
2) Increased mental faculties
3) More health and less disease especially at an older age
4) Increased focus
5) Increased strength
6) etc

If you had my same knowledge and experience you would stop banging chicks the same day, it's not worth it, period.

Constant relapses bring:

1) Mental fog
2) You literally become dumber
3) You are more prone to disease
4) Your mind always wanders around
5) You will be weaker
6) etc

ALl of that for what? a stupid orgasm of 2-3 seconds?

 

Maybe it isn’t clear to you. He is able to have sex AND retain semen. This is an amazing skill it took me years to develop it.

 

Like I already said it's all about abstaining from both sexual thoughts and wet dreams

 

Seems about right. Same is true for me. When I do nofap but still ejaculate I definitely have a lot of benefits compared to masturbating top porn, but not nearly as much benefits as when I retain semen. Semen retention is where it's really at!

He does seem to want to convert everybody on this forum into a celibate monk haha. That's definitely not what I wan't, I am looking for balance between healthy sexuality and benefits of retention/nofap, as most people here I believe. But he does have a point, sex will drain you to an extent. Even without ejaculation. Still though, 95% of the benefits are from semen retention. So you're fine, nothing to worry about. But know that if at some point, for whatever reason, you do get tired of sex and want to take a brake from it, maybe to focus more on career success, education, etc, there is always next level waiting for you.

Yes, please explain. I do have desire to retain and absolutely believe there are huge benefits to it. But I don't have a good technique yet. Always could use some advice.

 

Well good luck with it, if you can do 2 months you can probably do 3 months. Yes I'm being honest about it, if you read above my lines you can tell I'm being honest.

 

It's not that I want to turn everyone into a celibate, thing is this, sex is meant for procreation, the pleasure that comes from it is a facilitator for procreation, the problems arise when people just want physical pleasure which is a lower desire, and brings side effects, I learnt it the hard way. The same applies to food, the taste is a facilitator, but if you just focus on taste you will probably get fat etc.

But hey guys, it's your body, you do whatever you want with it

 

I hate that this is true lol

 

I don't disagree with you on your points, everything that you say is technically true. I just think there is more to it than that. Your solution for this is to abolish thing, that has potential to hurt you, completely. I just don't think it's necessary.

Food is a problem for me and I am currently dealing with it. Unfortunately we need to ate all the time so I can't just avoid it like you avoid sex. Wouldn't in be wonderful if we could become breatharians, huh? But I know people who ate 99% healthy and then have a delicious cheat meal couple of times a month. It works for them.

The same way I believe somebody can practice semen retention and the same time have sex in moderation without losing themselves to it and overdoing it. It probably isn't for everyone though. Some people have more or less self control regrading different things.

Interesting. That's weird. I wonder why is this.

 

Well yes, if all of sudden you try to repress your sexual desires etc, it's probably not going to end well, what I did I simply got into spiritual literature and increased my knowledge about the side effects of sex and the pros of abstaining, I understand my results are not common and I deal with skepticism everyday, but there was hard work behind my results and years of experience.

Yes we need to eat and bring nourishment to the body, that's for sure, as fas as being a breatharian, I'm 100% sure it's possible, I follow the doctrine of ramalinga swamigal, suddha sanmarga, basically Ramalinga was a saint that recently existed, I think more than just 100 years ago so its quite recent, He rarely ate, and in the later stages he never ate anything, he also used to never sleep. In his poems he claimed he achieved an immortal body, would not age, perfectly youthful. He said there are many things that kill the body, the main ones in order of priority are sex, the second one is food, the third one is sleep, the fourth is fear. He claimed in order to regenerate yourself all of the above was required to be transcended, plus melting with the divine, it seems he learnt directly from god itself, which he calls the jothi.

The most remarkable thing is that at 51 years of age, he announced his disappearance, he announced he would dematerialize and reunite with the divine, he locked himself into a cell, and disappeared, the police broke the cell and never found anything, this is clearly recorded to my amazement. His body was never found.

Since i started following his teachings I'm getting serious results, so I think what he was saying was truthful.

Honestly, getting rid of the sexual desire is easy, food and sleep are the hardest ones, I'm doing yoga of sleep, and I reduced my sleeping hours from 8 to 5 which is quite remarkable already, if you abstain from sex, from my understandings, you need way less sleep because you are far more energized.

Also, food correlated with sleep, if you eat way too much, you might follow asleep.

 

Maybe. I know some people who claim to do that and are still alive and no saints but just ordinary people, such as Genesis Sunfire (I've watched his interview on youtube called "Future Humans Are Here"). I've found many other breatharians too who even have youtube channels haha.

I don't know whether these guys are for real or just frauds. I don't really tend to believe anything 100% until I have tried it, or there is enough scientific research to support it. But I'm trying to keep an open mind, even tho it's bloody difficult to keep an open mind to some things...

I do have some immediate problems at hand now before I can ascend to godhead though. Such as getting a well payed job and getting an further education haha. I also have to clean the dishes. When you have some mundane problems to deal with ascending doesn't seem like such a priority. Especially considering that all it might be just BS superstition.

 

Theirs no need for a job, house, or food, when you have truly ascended... You cant make dirty dishes if you don’t eat. Houses are the reason we have to get our sustenance from food... Poor air quality, low sunlight. It’s all starting to make sense.

3 days HardMode

 

I think 100% are frauds unless they don't want any money. Then there might be a chance.

I kind of agree with it, there are 2 ways for spiritual advancement, becoming a sannyasin which means renouncing everything, begging on teh streets for food etc, or being an householder and dealing with all the hassles of family etc, I believe none of them are the best but a thing in the middle, which I'm doing, being an entrepreneur and possibly not going into meditating into a cave and avoiding distractions of family etc. So in that position you are not struggling nor too distracted.

But some people are not meant to advance spiritually I believe, only god knows, perhaps for karmic reasons

 

Does it? Maybe a guy just has some knowledge and just wants to make some money with it. I don't get why that would make him fraud. That's kind of like saying that personal trainer at your gym is a fraud unless he trains you for free. It's normal thing for people to make money with their knowledge and experience. No?

 

Don't think so, you need a high level of maturity for achieving that, money matters less I believe, most of legit breatharians are in india and don't care about fame nor money, i give more credit to them.