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I’m 24 year old virgin should I hire and escort or go try to meet a girl

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by Xtownsend, Aug 25, 2019.

  1. realmineralsalt

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    Thank you for this, man. Makes me feel proud to have rejected offers from my coworkers to pay a whore for me when I was a hopeless virgin.
     
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  2. No, don't hire an escort. This is pointless. What is virginity? It means you never conquered a woman. Will this change if you buy one? To me this makes no sense. It is pathetic and it is a lack of self-respect.
    Go out and get a girl, what are you waiting for? What's the problem? How come you did not manage to get one until 24?
    You shouldn't look for sex, you should look for a true relationship. Only this will make you grow. You just want sex? Your do you want to be desired by a beautiful woman?
     
  3. When you get married, and when there is confidence in your relationship. eventually, you will be able to tell her. What you did, why you did it, how it made you feel, how you think about it today. Women aren't angels neither. We always think women are perfect and have a higher morality. But I had many affairs and found out, that they were in a relationship. The worst was when I spend the night at her place and next morning her boyfriend was standing in front of the door, with flowers and a brunch.
     
  4. Breach

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    You should be proud! Stay strong :)

    Thank you for the advice, you make some excellent points. And I suppose one would expect their spouse to be understanding about the less good parts of ones life as well. Also it's a shame people can't be faithful :(
     
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  5. Thanks for the encouragement. I don’t think people “can’t” be faithful rather, it’s a matter of choice like anything else. That choice reflects what we want. We want temporary pleasure more than long term relationships.

    Candy bar versus carrot.

    Porn session versus warning up your cranky wife.

    Fast food versus cooking
     
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  6. Breach

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    True. Perhaps some people also don't value relationships that highly.
     
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  7. Not sure if we can value what we don’t appreciate.

    I work with lots of successful family businesses. The number 1 complaint I hear from founders (fathers most times) with the family business is that their sons or daughters don’t value what they have.

    How could they ? It’s not like they recall the “before”. Just the after.

    You know why most lottery winners go broke? Because they don’t appreciate what they have.

    To appreciate something you must first remember the original state where you did not have it.

    All addictions rely on limbic brain. This part of the brain is not designed to make time -calculations

    In other words, it designed for the present tense.

    Child developmental psychologists call the addictive condition the “now vortex”. Where addicts fail to see past their present needs— they focus only on the high.

    What I’m explaining scientifically is what today is know as “yolo”. Which defies the future planning or the historical recollection. If you are an addict of any kind, you struggle with healthy perception of history and future. You have trained your brain to think in the present.

    You are a perfect candidate to do something impulsively and not understand why. This explains why so many addicts can’t “stop” using.

    This lecture shows how trauma breaks down the relationship “value” proposition you make. It’s more than 4 min vid, but eye opening. Addicts don’t give a shit about the future or anyone else for that matter. It’s how they are residing their brains to think. We are all on a spectrum.

    If you use pmo enough you can get as calloused as the people you are suggesting don’t care about their relationships.
     

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  8. Haddock

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    Man do you think anyone will seriously advice you to hire an escort on a forum about stopping P ? Just don't do it. You're 24. Fine. There is no problem with being virgin at 24. This society is crazy and people loose their virginity sooner and sooner. So don't worry, go out, meet people. At some point you will meet a nice girl, fall in love and eventually have sex with her (after wedding much better). There was a guy on this forum (I forgot who) who was addicted to escort as you could have been addicted to P. So it is definitely not worth taking the risk. Moreover, in my opinion (I never tried escort), this has nothing to do with real sex with someone you love. Don't worry, 24 is not old :)
     
  9. Wow, what happened, why is your counter back on 8?
     
  10. Haddock

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    I reset. I was to permissive with myself and I look at soft P. At the beginning it was only nice looking woman, not even naked. Eventually it was P. My fault. I try to learn from my mistakes. Hopefully I will be more strict in the future and achieve 147 days (my longest streak) or more ! :)
     
  11. Breach

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    Very informative post, thank you! Will watch the video now
     
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  12. phwrancesco

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    hmm man thats a nice speech but thats not true. Being virgin at 24 is definetly a problem and virginity can be part of a bigger problem. Get rid of it.
     
  13. phwrancesco

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    Totally not sarcastic! :)
     
  14. Nanni

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    I'm as aged as you are, I'm gonna be 25 on November and I'm still virgin too. I don't think it's a problem (anyway, who cares?), since I'm a practicing catholic guy. Perhaps people around me look at me as if I was a kind of loser because I never had a first time (I used to have a girlfriend until the beginning of February 2017), even if I made my crap; but because of a spiritual path that I'm walking along for quite a while, I'm sure that it's always been worth it, and here is why:

    Sex must be seen as an extreme gift of love in with you give yourself to your WIFE (be careful: I'm not talking about GILFRIEND, nor indeed ESCORT), with who you're gonna be one only thing.
    This is something that is gonna happen only in the marriage (I know a lot of you never agree with it: the only answer I can give you is that my considerations are such a matter of spiritual ascesis, and everyone can do it, as long as you want it).

    So don't be ashamed of your virginity: rather be proud of it!

    Don't compare yourself to the other people: if you decided to take the NOFAP path, it means that you're not that unimportant! ;)
     
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  15. Tibo87

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    I think you should elaborate your thought quickly before to get a storm of comments on your remark.

    Wherever you are in your sexuality in your life, it is not a problem.
     
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  16. phwrancesco

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    I think i elaborated enough what i said, but in this forum most of the people thinks that being virgin is cool just because they are.

    Truth is that, passed 24-25 years, being virgin can actually become a serious issue and can prevent a guy from exposing himself with the girls, generating more frustration and anger in a vicious circle. Plus, the plasticity of your brain is not the same of the teenage years and overcoming such a block with your sexuality becomes more difficoult everyday that passes.

    I'm the first who says to a 19-20 years old boy to not be that worried about their virginity, but 24 it's a different story. You can easily see that something is wrong just by looking at your contemporaries: 95% of them, one way or another, has lost virginity.
     
  17. Haddock

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    Can you explain why this is a problem ? I can see no reason why. People are loosing their virginity younger and younger. For the generation of my parents, 24 and virgin was completely normal. Nowadays, the average age of first sexual relation is around 17,5 years old. Given that this average was higher for every previous generations, the real question should be "Isn't it a problem to loose your virginity so young ?"

    I completely agree with you (I'm catholic too ;)). There are actually very good reasons to wait until marriage. Moreover, if the Catholic Church advises to wait, this is not because it is written in the Bible (It's not written). There are good reasons that could be accepted by a non believer. There are books about it. For instance I read this one (it's in french, dunno if there is a translation). Even if you guys find it ridiculous, please take some time to read and think about it. In my opinion it's worth it. Two years ago if someone has told me "wait until marriage" I would have laugh at him. Now I'm waiting too. Believe it or not it has made my struggle against P much easier. You have to change the way you consider sex. The truth is (and this is where probably many of you won't agree) it should not be separated from love AND engagement. So it's much better to have sex with a girl you love rather than with a random attractive girl. But this is not enough. With your girlfriend you're not engaged although you love her. With your wife you are.
     
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  18. ProdigalSon74

    ProdigalSon74 Fapstronaut

    Bad idea. Deal with addiction and start dating like a normal person
     
  19. ababa

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    does hiring an escort/going to sensual massage parlour count as a relapse?
     
  20. phwrancesco

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    I feel truly sorry for you guys. I feel blessed for choosing to live my life differently.
     

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