Would a girl want to date a 30 year old that still lives at home with his parents.

If a woman saw a better version of her husband, the same goes for men too!,.... then it is a kind of cheating. I just realizing that I didn't saw any healthy relationships in my city. If you cant say "your suffering is my suffering" then nobody will end up being happy in this society. And therefore people surpress their feelings with being addicted to many things.

 

Although it might not be well-documented (since mainstream-media won't mention this fact due to fear of appearing as misogynistic and sexist) it is a well-known fact and biological reality amongst most people and it can't be denied. Doing so is nothing but delusion since the wall cannot be fought against, denied or ignored, it will be there no matter what people say or do, just like the different kind of taxes you have to pay, there is no escape from it.
Men won't really hit the wall past age 30 unless they make it up for themselves since they have plenty of other things that can compensate for their loss in youth (social status, career, accumulation of resources, higher level of maturity, more life-experience, etc). Men only hit the wall if they become fat lazy slobs who have no goals and purposes and life and who can't take care of themselves or their basic hygiene.

The decline in T-levels amongst men (as well as their fertility) is quite gradual over time whereas women's fertility declines exponentially over time and we all know it. For every year that passes after age 25, it becomes much harder for a woman to conceive plus the increasing risks of birth-defects in the newborn, which is why postponing her first childbirth long into her 30's is a much bigger gamle for her and the newborn than it would have been in her 20's.

 

While it's definitively true that females experience a sharper decline in fertility due to age, the fact remains that men produce less quality sperm over time and give rise to exponentially less healthy offspring. Hence the reason why a 20 year old woman prefer a 20 year old man over a 40 year old, given that they are both in the same money/status category.

However, just as you say, men have historically been able to compensate their loss of fitness with greater income and status. Women have just recently been able to do the same, and today it's not uncommon for women to have partners decades younger. Of course, without this extra privilege, neither sex would be able to compete with younger members of the same sex.

"Hit a wall" is an exceptionally bad description, since this doesn't reflect how human mating strategies or reproductive aging look today. If you wrote that on an exam in medical school, you would get red marks all over to say the least! For example, the sharpest rise in abortion doesn't happen in teenagers, but in women 40+, meaning that they indeed show fecundity. Older women are also overrepresented when it comes to natural twin births, due to ovulatory hyperfunction. The decline in fertility is still slope shaped, meaning that there literally is no wall for neither sex (at least not until menopause, with an average age of 51).

The slope that actually exist for women is not that steep either and doesnt really become statistically relevant until after the age of 35. Teenage boys have the least damaged sperm, still no one in their right mind would come up with the idea that an eighteen year old boy has "hit the wall". Biological facts have absolutely nothing to do with being politically correct either, so let's put that aside.

Unfortunately, men (like the rest of the population) are subjected to cellular aging and do not persevere in a Benjamin Button-like existence. Even if a man does not become a "lazy fat slob", he still is a victim of epigenetic changes and so is his germ cells. One female strategy is of course to mate with younger men but date and marry old rich men. Today, when female fertility (due to better nutrition and medical enhancement) has been greatly extended and there is an expanding socioeconomic equality, this form of cuckoldry is likely to decline in developed countries.

 

This is what I forget to write: Honest men dont look after bikini models, they just don't want to have a relationship with fuckgirls. It is not normal when a woman had already sex with multiple guys in bed before starting a "real relationship". This is so western, that I am feeling...lets say "uncomfortable". And this is what I will never understand ever in life. It gives me even shivers just to imagine about this kind of epidemic state or illness. (Of course the same goes for man too but I see woman more in that kind of light to be honest for example prostitution, porn business, x-cam girls and so on, the majority are always woman)

 

I agree and fully understand! I would never date a man who has been with prostitutes, in porn, with many women or pays for cam girls... that's just gross, and he would be "ruined" in my eyes. Plus thinking what nasty diseases he would bring would cause my regions to lock up and throw away the key...

 

Lilla_My reminds me why feminists are annoying

 

I know how you feel man. But I learned to just save my money and enjoy my life. Woman or no woman. I choosing to be happy regardless. I have plans to save my money and travel. If its alone or with somebody. Its different for everybody but its something that i came to terms with already. Its different for everybody though.

 

You think this is helpful @Lilla_My ? We try to encourage each other to go out, meet girls, and if neccessary admit our previous\ongoing problems to people in our lives. A lot of people here are in really vulnerable mental state as well. And here you come as a girl and casually say things like this. Take your toxic politics and personality, and go elsewhere please.

 

Clean, respectable guys want to date high quality women that hasn't been around. Clean, respectable women want to date high quality guys that hasn't been around. It's not politics, it's evolution.

So... jog on.

 

Have you heard of time and place? I dont go to a site for handicapped singles and spew out that I think people who miss an arm or a leg are nasty and I would never date one. But this is what you do here.

the politics comment was a reference to the previous four pages where you apparently can´t see the world beyond feminism. Everything has to be interpreted in a political world view. Its just childish and stupid.

 

A pick up artists on youtube is saying that most woman in the 30s without any boyfriend are too desperate and therefore some taking the first guy who are sleeping with them without a condom, because some woman take a risk between 30 and 40 years to get pregnant for their "fun", cause if the woman is not pregnant they had fun with sex without any contraceptives and if they get pregnant they just reach the goal to have children. This was already their desire but they didn't tell it to the partner in an open way. I hope I dont meet such a girl. I hope my future girlfriend is honest and respect my decision not to have a child. Cause I think if you have a baby you are not much happier than before, it is always the opposite the case,....you are getting more problems. Sometimes I am asking whats the reason for having a baby? There is no necessety for more people on earth....and if I am dead I wouldn't see my grandchildren grow anyways. Of course there is no need for a girlfriend/wife also, you can be satisfied without anyone.

 

This is so true. I also know alot of woman who are not interested in any plans. But it is also true that men who are keep living in the house of parents are not being loved, no matter what issue the man got.
If you are really smart, good looking, good in bed, famous people, people who have enough money or who earn good amount of money are like a magnet. Then nobody is talking about charakter,...many woman are just too fascinated about the thing what makes men worthy to be loved but only to enrich themselves....this will never be called true love. Your size of your penis or Sex in general is not true love.
Your money is not true love. Your appearance is not true love. Being used for making kids or being used just being the moneymaker or being a slave is not true love and never will be. Therefore true love is hard to find. I am guessing that only 1% of all men and woman in a relationship understands whats true love. This is like winning at the lottery! It is a sad situation but I will not cry if I will never be able to find a girlfriend. She must be someone who simply loves my heart instead of everything else. And if she is suffering I wont leave her and if I am suffering than she shouldn't leave either......nobody should leave a relationship when your ass is burning.

 

If you're purchasing a house in the near future I wouldn't see most women would have a problem with it.