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Aggression

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by Max666, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. Max666

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    I was thinking of breaking my 4 month NoFap record just to release the pressure valve a little. Last weekend I walked past this guy who eyeballed me and I wanted to turn around and punch his lights out just cause he dared to look at me. Every time I think about him I just wanna drive a hammer into his face. Ive had similar situations before.
    Sometimes get so much aggression bottled up I think I'm gonna explode but I dont want a 3 month jail sentence.
    I do meditation and Tai Chi so I know how to contain myself to a degree but when I step outside I tend to think everyone is beneath me, especially that beta male, knuckle dragger who almost lost his head!
     
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  2. mondhamray

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    You need to go to therapy. The fact that you are so prideful that you don’t think people are allowed to look at you, that you especially are so intimidated by someone that you think is subversive to you, and that you can’t let go of that after several days shows some serious issues. NoFap is not the root of this, though certainly may be exacerbating the situation. You have problems you need to deal with and I’m not going to sympathize and coddle you for your sociopathic wanna-be-alpha-male insecurities.
     
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  3. Max666

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    Sorry I struck a nerve
     
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  4. mondhamray

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    Struck a nerve?! Have you read what you wrote? It’s not ok. You are a threat to society.
     
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  5. Max666

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    My advice to you is always keep your cards close to your chest, dont give away too much about yourself. When you respond emotionally, people can delve deep inside your mind based on what you say. Keep your guard up at all times.

    Anyone with half a sense of humor can easily tell I'm not entirely serious.
     
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  6. MikeSilva

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    My brother, I had the same a few mo ths ago. I am on day 240 or something and dude I was fucking emotionally unstable. Wanted to punch every guy who looked at me and wanted to kick every girl that rejected me.

    I think this is a sign of too much testosterone, if you keep your semen and do not have sex, then this semen and testosterone will be accumulated in our body which leads to a lot of rage and sometimes even depression. However, aftee a few weeks or month (cant remember) this feeling has gone away, and I feel much more stable with more testosterone.

    Your body learns how to deal with the accumlates testosterone which leads to emotional stability and less rage. This is a HUGE step to recovery. So been there bro ;) just be patient.

    Advise: Lose the energy a bit, since you have a lot now because we do not spill the energy in fap session. Work out bro, hit the fucking weights, go to boxing. You can turn this rage into something postive.

    Good luck and please update me about your process
     
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  7. Di.Do.555

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    I had similar experience.
    Not aggression but anger.
    Everytime i do a long no pmo streak ( 2 weeks+) i start getting angry for silly reasons.
    I think that if you start screaming while alone driving a car , it releases a lot of boiling tension.
    Good luck.
     
  8. MikeSilva

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    No need to attack or judge anyone here! We are here to help each other
     
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  9. I find slow jogging quite calming plus stretching and yoga. Meditation too.
    Weights and stuff like boxing just make me more aggressive.
    You're doing great.
     
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  10. Boxerito

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    I recommend to download a meditation app. What happens to you has a neurological reason, increased amygdalar volume. This has been found in porn addicts, so it is very typical. Now, greater amygdalar reactivity is linked to reactive or hostile aggression. Thus, you need to temper activity in the amygdala, and there are 2 natural ways to do that: bonding with your loved ones (might be a lover, a good friend or relative), because bonding increases oxytocin, which eases amygdalar hyperreactivity, and second is mindfulness meditation (this practice reduces amygdalar volume).

    You might think, I just want to release the tension by letting go the anger or violence. It is wrong simply because of basic psychology: if you google instrumental conditioning, what this behavior would entail is to give a positive reinforcement (a reward) to your anger (the behavior). Hence, by rewarding your anger and aggression, you are feeding those neural pathways to become stronger, thus, being more aggressive. That's how instrumental conditioning works. So the angst will come to you like a boomerang, but with even greater force, creating a vicious cycle. The way to stop is not to indulge in the vicious cycle by not exploding. Hope this psychology tip works.
     
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  11. I'm going to give a bit of a different perspective here.

    Sometimes, a man will "eyeball" another man if you are also eyeballing him. It's a two-way street, and it can be a sign of respect — he might be admiring your posture and gait. I've often eyeballed another man (and he's eyeballed me) when I have admired his stance and wanted to learn from it.

    Take it as a compliment, instead of acting — to use your phrase! — like a beta male o_O (Alpha males don't lose their shit over something so trivial.)
    That's a myth. Testosterone takes a while to return to normal, and then it stabilises (hence the word "normal").

    Likewise, semen doesn't accumulate (the whole "semen retention" thing is also a myth). Old semen is broken down by your body before it rots, and either used to make new protein somewhere else or just eliminated through normal waste channels. Your body creates new semen to replace the removed semen. This way it's kept fresh. Semen is not, as some semen-retention fans would have it, converted into some sort of magic.
    This is your key phrase. What you need to know is that every addiction (not just porn addiction) happens for a reason. There are many possible underlying reasons, but one stands out and one is universal.

    The one that stands out is a lack of connection. This one is contentious. Some researchers believe that it underlies all addictions, whereas other researchers say that it's important but not in every case. You'll have to decide if this applies to you.

    The one that is universal is the attempt to numb feelings — often subconsciously held — through the addiction, rather than dealing directly with the problem. That's why some people get addicted, and not others. For example, one person might try heroin and instantly get addicted, while another will say, "Well, that was interesting, but it's not for me. I'm not doing that again."

    Therefore, your question to yourself is, "What feelings am I trying to numb?" This is often a hard question to answer! But your clue comes with the anger. Behind anger — I have never found an exception to this — lies some type of fear. There are many possible things that a person could fear: Fear of judgement, fear of disappointing a parent (even a dead parent! — remember that the fear might be held subconsciously), fear of being made to look a fool, fear of feeling weak, fear of feeling powerful, fear of physical danger… The list goes on.

    Can you sit in a quiet place, recall the incident where you felt angry — heck, you might be feeling angry with me at this moment, and that's OK, because it's another clue — recall the incident as clearly as possible, and really get into that anger! Feel the anger, see the anger, hear the anger. Once you are feeling all that anger piling in on you, sit without judgement (that's vital) and ask, "What is fuelling this anger?"

    You might have to go through more than one feeling (like layers) before you reach the fear underneath it all.

    If you can get to the fear underneath the anger, bingo! there's what you can work with.

    In any case, I recommend therapy. Not because you're different, but because I recommend this to every addict. I know that without therapy, I'd still be addicted and in a frightful mess.
     
  12. Max666

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    In this case I had sunglasses on so he couldn't tell I was eyeballing him. He was just a dick basically. It was at the service station, he saw I had a girl in the passenger seat of my car and he didn't like it cause he didn't have a girl so he decided to walk real slow to pay for his fuel cause he thought I was waiting behind him in my car to use his pump , didn't realize I drove to another bay instead of waiting. When he saw I had already put gas in my car (only $20) and crossed his path as he walked out I think it pissed him off a bit.
    I know people and I can tell everything about someone by their non-verbals, I can tell they're a prick, a moron, a loser, or a decent person with good values. That's one of my strengths but sometimes in this case it works against me.
     
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  13. Understood, @Max666 . So, he's a loser. Why aren't you feeling sorry for him that he's so messed up that he needs to try to cause problems? Why aren't you sorry for him that he's so screwed up that he has to feel jealous? Being angry or aggressive solves nothing, and causes even more problems.

    Anyway, as I said, sit with the anger and try to figure out what's fuelling it. (It sounds as though you have a fear of feeling unimportant or insignificant, although that's my interpretation and I could be wrong.) If you get angry over such trivialities, you're going to live the rest of your life stressed as shit. Anger is only appropriate when you need it in an emergency to protect yourself or an innocent person; in this case, no one was in danger and there was no emergency.
     
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  14. Max666

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    Firstly congrats on your 240 days. I'm 100 behind you.
    You're right about the testosterone. I lift weights and eat animal fats (I mean lard straight out of the tub!). I find the animal fats tend to make me more aggressive. I dont know if you've noticed when you eat bacon in the morning a difference in moods? I cant find a scientific link to animal fats and aggression but I know it's there. I haven't tried boxing but I dont think my wrists would be too fond of it.
     
  15. I have no idea of the science, but I did know someone at university who became seriously aggressive whenever eating red meat. His doctor told him to never eat red meat. He could eat other types of protein (poultry, fish, eggs, etc.).

    So, I can't tell you what the science is, but doctors are aware of a link, not in everyone, but clearly you are one of them.

    Also, my doctor told me to avoid animal fats. Lean meat is fine, but not the fats. Watch out for your heart!
     
  16. Max666

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    I know what you're saying but I tend to only feel sorry for nice people who are vulnerable and deserving. Not assholes who spend their lives in a grand theft auto reality, dont bother to try, be good at anything, aren't respectful, piss their lives away and expect the world to throw roses at their feet. I resent these people more than anyone. Guys who confuse badboy with asshole, with big chips on their shoulders.
    The thing I dont like about them is the entitlement mentality they have. That aggravates the hell out of me. You've got to earn respect the right way...by being a 'somebody'.
     
  17. PrinceOtaku

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    Same here bro. I'm trying to work on being less aggressive. Instead of being aggressive use my humor in those kind of situations. Whenever I'm on a long nofap streak, I get angry af then I feel like slapping somebody if they talk to me the wrong way.Before nofap I was a "beta" I'd let people walk all over me, talk to me any kind of way, some even punked me and I didnt do anything back. Now I'm way more assertive. But dude you gotta work on that, unless it's a life threatening situation, Is it really worth doing 3 months in the pen and get a felony on your record? Sometimes you gotta bigger man and walk away from them situations.Doesn't mean you a punk.
     
  18. Coco99

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    You should really consider a boxing or kickboxing class. It definitely helps with reliving some build up tension or pressure. Also helps you stay locked in for 1 hour.
     
  19. Max666

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    The problem isn't entirely me. I think the world in general is becoming angrier. People have just got bad attitudes now. I was walking my dog yesterday and some fat, insignificant woman decided to make herself feel special by calling me an asshole because my dog did a dump on the grass. This is what the world is coming to. There's a lot of uncertainty in the world today, coronavirus, looming recessions + people are becoming more detached from society, living in social media and playing computer games all day. When they finally do step out into the real world their brains cant adjust properly so they exaggerate their realities and their behavior and communication reflect that. It never used to be this bad, once upon a time people were nice and respectful to each other. Now their just bloody miserable. At least I've got an excuse, they on the other hand just piss their lives away, of course they're gonna be angry at the world.
     
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  20. OMG, you are incredibly judgemental!

    When you give yourself the right to judge others based on your presumptions, this means that you give the right to others to judge you based on their presumptions.

    Do you get what I'm saying?

    You don't know the other guy's life circumstances. If he really "lives in a grand theft auto reality, dont bother to try, be good at anything, aren't respectful, piss their lives away and expect the world to throw roses at their feet" — as you assume! — the chances are that he has had a rough upbringing. But, by God, what a presumption to make on the basis that someone is having a bad day!

    Which then allows me to presume things at you, because that's fair, right? You're here due to an addiction. So why don't I now judge you? Why don't I presume what you do all day based on knowing essentially nothing about you?

    See what this does? When we use judgementalism? Does it make you feel good either to judge or to be judged? No, of course not. When you judge like that, you aren't adding value to the world. You're doing the opposite. You're subtracting value from the world, and that includes you!

    You seriously need to chill, dude! If you end up in jail, you'll have deserved it, which makes you — by your own judgement! — the asshole. Think about that for a moment.

    So, now I circle back to what I originally said. Instead of feeling all righteous about how much better you are than the other person (because that sort of comparison is a mug's game that hides a tremendous insecurity), circle back to you: What is the source of all your anger? Given your latest posts, my suspicion is that it is based on a deep insecurity about who you are and what you are capable of. If you're judging others that way, the chances are strong that you judge yourself harshly. If that is the case (you have to decide if I'm right or mistaken), the place where you start your work is not on telling us what others "should" and "shouldn't" do. The place where you start is on yourself, treating yourself gently, stop judging yourself, doing the best you can for the right reasons, and allowing yourself to screw up because you're, well, human.

    Did you have a strict upbringing? I ask that, because I did, and…

    I used to be all judgemental just like you. Gosh, wasn't I the superior one (I would think)! Weren't all those other assholes ridiculous, and why didn't they just improve themselves to my level? That's the kind of thinking process that comes from having a sctrict upbringing where you have to be perfectionistic (or, at least, that's the impression that you get growing up).

    Thank heavens that I realised my narrow-minded intolerance, because that way of thinking really did make my life a shithole to live. Not to mention that it pushed people away from me.
    Well, did you pick up your dog's dump and dispose of it safely?

    I don't know where you live, but where I live, it's a criminal offense (with a large fine) to leave it there, and rightly so because of the disease that it spreads.

    See? Judgement works both ways! In not a nice way :)
     
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