Edging & Semen Retention

Excellent!

 

I agree. I have at times struggled with touching and 'gentle stroking'. It's almost like I catch myself doing it.
In the past especially, when watching porn "hands free" I find that I am very near to orgasm simply with the visual stimulation, such that when I do touch myself, it's almost instantaneous. Fap, fap, BANG. Edging then is masturbation without the happy ending, but in truth the happy ending is only a couple seconds away. Thanks for the info and reminder!

 

I hate edging. Easiest way to 'accidentally' bust a nut.

What I do enjoy...is having boners when I wake up, and I'm being serious here. Better to wake up with a boner than having to intentionally stimulate your genitals. Primates in the wild dont even do this!

 

Thanks for the sciency details.

Edging is contraindicated with NoFap, because it enhances the negative effect that PMO has on your brain. If you have a denial or chastity fetish, it feeds that as well.

 

I don’t know if it’s just me. But I prefer edging over orgasm.
I can edge for hours until it hurts or bleed. Then I O when I think that was enough (after my 30 days streak, I couldn’t control it precisely anymore).
I think if I could edge without any pain I would do it for dozens of hours...

 

That is a direct result of how the brain works. The addiction requires constant feeding of dopamine, and it steadily grows. You yourself know that — you go for hours until it hurts or bleeds! If that's not escalation, nothing is

Preferring edging to orgasm is because of your addiction.

You have to stop edging in order to get back to normal. You cannot enjoy real sex with a real person when your brain has been hijacked like that.

You are five days into your reboot. Keep going. This need for edging will disappear, but it will be a slow process. It will linger in the back of your mind, probably, for several months before something healthy completely replaces it.

 

Since I did my 30 days streak, I didn’t edge too much. It was always quick pmo, but it started to get longer and longer again.
But I think I will do well in this streak.

 

Technically, a quick fap serves you better than edging. Edging floods your brain with dopamine and causes dopamine insensitivity, which is when a person becomes unable to seek reward because edging and the pleasure from it is the only thing the brain finds rewarding, essentially barring the brain from perceiving other activities as rewarding.

With a quick fap, you only relapse with that much dopamine flooding the brain. The body recovers quicker from a quick nut than the brains can from excessive dopamine.

And when you can pursue other useful activities, then you can't use the increased energy from retention. So many of the benefits of retention presume there's no edging.

 

good point. Also you're still getting a dopamine hit. When I first did 90s here, I would edge - eventually to the point like you said near orgasm - though not as 'draining' as ejaculation I was still left with a tired, confused feeling... so a lot of the benefits of transmutation are lost...

If you're edging or even fantasizing sexually to the point of stimulation, you're still using sex as an escape and feel good mechanism rather than taking that energy and truly transmutate it. it took a long time for me to realize it - you can't just realize it you have to feel it in your body - I am still working on this part.

 

also a great point. While neither is preferred, its better to get it over with and get back to transmutation rather than edge for days and still have your counter intact.

 

I actually experienced this recently. I'm into that "semen retention" thing for like 9 months, and I often manage to stop WAY BEFORE orgasm hit, then wake up with some sleep loss only.

 

while better than PMO it's still using imaginary sex for escape/dopamine/anxiety relief and as such cuts us off from seeking real intimacy.

this is a great way to sum it up Thanks!

 

I can't agree with this anymore because it is more true than I can acknowledge.

 

Did I edged accidentally? Did I relapse on 261 days? I watched porn because of urge in the morning and as I’m aroused I rubbed my penis twice and felt the orgasmic sensation but quickly leaved it there and go on. In the night again after eating a dinner, I watched a porn and I’m aroused again rubbed my penis once perhaps I’m aroused... I felt the orgasmic sensation again then my penis just go pumping without secreting anything then I leaved it there for 4 mins and saw the pre cum then I go on sleep. The morning I woke up I felt something wet on my penis... shit here we go again I don’t know if its wetdream or it released my sperm the night it hasn’t? Relapse or Retrack?

 

• A reset is when you set your counter back to zero (hence the name, "reset").
• A relapse is when you do something that causes your brain to go backwards in its healing. The dopamine receptors and the neural pathways are both affected.

When you watch porn, it's always a relapse. Why? Because it does damage to your brain. Even if you don't masturbate, porn is still a relapse. (You should also reset to keep track of your progress.)

Porn is the worst thing that you can do for this addiction, worse than masturbating.

 

Will anyone please help me with this thread of mine here https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/help-is-this-a-medical-condition.273511/