(I think that) NoFap is bollocks

It is all about pornography addiction and recovering from it.

Pornography addiction exists, and that is scientifically proven fact. NoFap is a tool which helps you when you are recovering from that addiction. It is as simple as that.

 

I feel the same about NoFap.
People in this community are making some pseudoscientific statements to make people think that NoFap can make people stronger, taller, etc; such as with the Testosterone myth. That gives attention for NoFap and even motivation people to join the NoFap, but nothing more.

Personally I joined NoFap because I'm addicted, yes addicted and I'm not a "compulsive masturbator" as many people like to say.

For evidence on masturbation addiction,I link to a study that shows how a opioid antagonist (naloxone) show a decreased pleasure from sex. (https://doi.org/10.1001/archpsyc.1977.01770220061006 the link can be accessed with http://sci-hub.tw but it's illegal because of copyright laws. If you accessed the document, look at table 2, on page 2).
Opioid antagonists block endorphins (that are generated while masturbating and/or orgasming) from binding to opioid receptors and creating the Euphoria. Other substances that bind to opioid receptors (opioid agonists) are powerful drugs such as Morphine, Heroin and Oxycodone. It's documented that those drugs cause psychical addiction (mainly because of the Euphoria) and physical addiction (because of hypersensitivity to noradrenaline). I would hypothesize that withdrawals from PMO can be as severe as from Codeine or Morphine without the physical withdrawals that are associated with long term use of opioids.

Now here's a thing with addiction. All people are different, but a PMO addiction interferes with my life. I use my time to masturbate and then feel sad and tired, instead of studying or doing something else. Many say that is better to meet a psychiatrist, but the problem is that masturbation addiction is not classified in ICD-11 and therefore it can not be treated by professionals. Because masturbation addiction is not classified in ICD-11, there are no current studies for drugs that can be used to treat the addiction.

 

Yes! Opioid antagonists are being studied for use in opioid, alcohol and sex addiction with promising results.

 

It´s hilarious reading the OP´s post, considering he wastes his time on this website and he doesn´t believe it. You´ve got bigger problems than porn buddy.

 

So I have a question for you. If someone masturbates to the point where they damage their penis and can no longer perform sexually with women, what course of action do you think would remediate that situation?

 

Me? If you want do dodge, that's fine, I won't force you to answer my simple question.

 

I like the original post and its scepticism. The problem I see is it will take a lot of time before we even get a proper research about just few of these questions because we don't even get enough of good research about food (and that's a way bigger problem).
I am also sceptical but I don't need research to find out. I simply started NoFap to see if there are any improvements or positive changes in my life and if they were due to NoFap or if there could be a different reason.
Right now I see it like a possible solution to a deeper problem that people may have. It's the same with exercises, learning etc. You improve yourself and build your self-esteem. It helps. Maybe that's an easy way to build it but if you can't do it in a different way it might be the only way to start the snowball of self improvements.

 

Oh ok. So in your eyes, what difference do you see between "giving [masturbation] a rest" and No[t]Fap[ping]? It's in the name of NoFap. The purpose of quitting masturbation is to stop the damage caused by masturbation and attempt to reverse it. Obviously if you don't have a problem with masturbation, then you don't need NoFap. As a personal testimony to the effectiveness of NoFap, I have experienced similar damages to the ones I described in my example, proceeded with NoFap for the recommended reboot time, and seen a reversal of those damages. Your prescription for people who masturbate to the point of damage literally coincides with that of NoFap.

 

How long? I didn't even finish 60 days yet but I've learnt a lot about myself. I don't want to make my mind yet but I see your point here. I wish to get to 90 days and then I think I'll have some thought and arguments to talk about.
My question also is: Do you only expect research or the answer to "Does it work and if it does then in what it helps?"

 

It is all about pornography addiction and recovering from it.

Pornography addiction exists, and that is scientifically proven fact. NoFap is a tool which helps you when you are recovering from that addiction. It is as simple as that.

 

I wouldn't' say pictures cause PIED (unless you make the same mistake I have made and create a slideshow of a new picture every 7 seconds!!).

I'm close to returning to PMO but only to the odd picture here and there. Frankly me depriving myself of any sexual stimuli for the last three years or so is almost inhumane! There is no way our ancestors lived without any some sort of sexual stimulation every now and then! Even though for me it's artificial sexual stimuli, it's still better than been in monk mode for sooo long (as long as I don't escalate it to Clips or slideshows).

Also, I might return to PMO as I'm fed up of the excess Testosterone, it's converting to estrogen and making my butt grow everyday! I had no problem with the gym and with my body shape in my PMO days.

I'll be waiting until around mid august before starting to go back to PMO - as this will mark exactly three years PMO free.

Does anyone here still not use pictures to let off some steam occasionally?