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Could porn have contributed to this shift in my personality?

Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by OhWhenThe, Aug 1, 2020.

  1. OhWhenThe

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    Bit of background - 30M and the sad truth is I have no friends, no love life and I hardly leave the house except for work(which is also socially isolated), food or going for a run. I've not even spoken to someone of a similar age as myself in an informal setting for like 10 years and I'm not even joking. If anyone's as much of a social recluse as I am then I'd like to meet them(haha).

    Things weren't always like this though. I often read of people having a tough childhood, no friends, being bullied etc which makes me feel bad but none of this was true in my case.

    In fact, from say the age of 7 to 17 I had many friends, a GF(albeit more in name only as I was too scared to take things further), other female friends and so on. I was hardly ever at home which is a stark contrast to where I've found myself since. A typical day for me would be school, come home, get changed, go out, home for dinner, back out and home just in time for bed. If my friends weren't around or for some reason or I couldn't go out I would hate it, not that I was necessarily needy but I was much happier when around them. If all else failed then I would simply go to the park and find people there to hang out with. Whilst I was by no means the most popular kid on the block, I was doing just fine and life was good.

    Around 17 or 18 though things changed and they haven't gotten any better, actually they've just continued to get worse. Coincidentally(?) it was around this time that I started to watch porn, I had seen the odd bit before this when friends had shown me but it didn't really interest me all that much, tbh at that time I was far too fascinated by the real life girls in my school to bother with it.

    At that point my personality began to change and it's taken me all this time to even realise it. I didn't enjoy going out anymore. Instead of going out every day it became every other day, then twice a week, once a week, once a fortnight and so on until I just never went out again and friends no longer even bothered to ask me. I would just find it boring and a complete chore, it simply just seemed like a lot of effort for not much reward. It's not like while I was with them I was thinking to myself how I'd rather be at home watching porn but maybe the porn caused these things to no longer appeal to me.

    I also began to become extremely self-conscious about my appearance even though I had attractive girls interested in me, all I could see were flaws. I started to hate myself and this snowballed to the point where I would hide away when family came to visit. I did have some ongoing health problems during my 20s which definitely didn't help matters but I was already well on my way to hermitville.

    I'm not really sure why I'm posting all of this but maybe someone out there can relate. Perhaps porn actually had nothing to do with it and this is just happens to some people for no reason.
     
  2. Candun

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    Hey man addiction is a son of a bitch. I'd bet $1000 against a penny that it had something to do with it at the very least. But especially since you're aware of it now, you can start heading down the road back.
     
  3. You should really give Nofap a proper try. PMO does this to you. It zaps you of energy and motivation. Read some success stories. The effects are real.
     
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  4. i can relate when you said its like a chore to go out. It takes a lot of motivation to do so. I was gonna go out to my usual night spot last night which is open now and only to 9pm but i just couldnt find the energy to take a quick shower dress good shave do my hair nice and leave. I just stayed in and watched a movie until i was ready for bed
     
  5. OhWhenThe

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    I did 60+ days earlier this year but haven't managed to get back there again since, I really wish I wouldn't have relapsed but my libido came back and I caved. Now I just keep relapsing at around the two week mark. I start off feeling determined and imagining what my life could be like - going out, making friends, meeting women etc but then I guess the addicted part of my brain kicks in and says "come on bro, you know that's never going to happen, you're just going to be miserable and lonely but without the occasional high of porn to look forward to".

    I haven't read too many success stories of guys in a similar position to me but maybe I just haven't seen them, even if I do see them there's still a big part of me that thinks it won't happen in my case. I will keep trying but it feels like my resolve gets eaten away just that little bit more with every relapse, I can't even remember how the hell I made it to two months last time.
     
  6. Bethelightinmyheart

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    I feel you with the becoming extremely self-conscious about appearance..my friends tell me constantly I am a 7-8 lookswise however, trying and failing hard at Onlinedating and the unfiltered hypergamy that rules that harsh venue, a Colloseum of social darwinism really, made me lose that core belief that I am hot and good enough and especially made me to comfortable and lazy and self-absorbed/self-conscious to even approach women. This bugs me big time!
     
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  7. ahighertruth

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    porn contributes but is not the root cause of the issue. the root cause of the issue is something from the inside that prevents you from living a normal life, like you once did. you have to think deep, it could be that maybe your gf broke your heart or that you didn't like your friends anymore. i know for a fact PMO will amplify the depression, but its not the cause of it by any means.
     
  8. OhWhenThe

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    Nah, no heartbreak. Tbh I was more into the fact that she really liked me rather than me especially liking her, we parted ways, no big drama.

    It wasn't so much that I didn't like my friends anymore either, I just preferred being alone more and more even though I'd always been the total opposite before then. Over time I just didn't feel any joy or enthusiasm for anything, I don't think I'm lazy, I will do things begrudgingly but that inner drive has all but disappeared. Just as a random example but when the lockdown started to ease here in the UK I saw on the news people were queuing half way down the street just to get back into the shops and I just can't see where anyone gets the enthusiasm to do something like that, I'd struggle to muster up the motivation to do that even if they were giving away free Lamborghinis.

    Also whilst I'd say I currently feel depressed, I don't think I have depression exactly, that probably doesn't make sense but I feel the depression I do have is surface level and could change quickly if something positive were to happen in my life. I remember a couple of months ago I noticed a cute girl was checking me out and for the rest of the day I felt great but then I go home with nothing to look forward to and start feeling low again ... which then leads to the whole watching porn to [temporarily] feel better cycle.
     
  9. fapequalsdeath

    fapequalsdeath Fapstronaut

    Porn was definitely a contributing factor but you cannot blame it for everything. I think you should blame yourself and the detach from the negative emotions that come with it. Dissect what you learn and move on.
     
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  10. Wordinhaler

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    I can relate so much to your story wow.
     
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  11. You know, thats exactly my story as well. I made it 90 days more than once. 105 days even. Dont give up. If what you do now isnt working, then try a different approach. During my best streaks I did a bunch of things different.

    I need people around me. Having a social and busy life helped me staying on track. Going to school, working out, having friends and crushes, cold showers and meditation. Also reading a ton of success stories. I also participated in a online 12-step program with daily tasks.

    You just need to do some proper research. Figure out what tools you need to succeed.

    Some keywords:

    - commitment

    - Peer pressure

    - Stay busy

    - Dont focus on fighting the old but on building the new

    - Read success stories

    - Write a list of reasons to stay clean

    My list of tools is quite short for now but it will for sure get longer soon.
     
  12. The porn tends to dull guys.

    When I did my first reboot, after I got through the withdrawls,

    I really came alive.

    I felt vibrant, unafraid, energetic, crazy.

    It was a rush.

    I'd spent a ton of years as isolated as you describe.

    Most people as adults are mostly isolated.

    Porn makes it worse, but also there is more isolation

    as adults than during school.

    There is nothing wrong with isolation, some prefer it.

    I hated it after my divorce, but the more I socialized,

    the more it seemed like people only wanted to talk about money.

    They wanted to know what I had, or had an indirect way of trying to

    find out if they could get money from me.

    The more I heard the money talk, the more I got jaded.

    Finally, I ditched the lot.

    Then I suffered again in loneliness.

    But I started to figure that if I was on my own for a while,

    I'd probably get used to it.

    And in this reboot, I have.

    I'm isolated, but not "lonely".

    In this reboot, with the pandemic fear, I learned to be ok with just being me.

    I don't need anybody to affirm that.

    If "me" is not good enough for "me", that's when I get lonely.

    Loneliness is a symptom of a self-esteem issue.
     
  13. Experiment1996

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    The same thing happened to me.

    Until I was 13, I was a happy, extroverted, motivated, friendly person. I had lots of friends and was always outside. I had hobbies and enjoyed life. I always made jokes and was famous at school. People liked me. I was full of life energy and positive.

    When I was 13, I started PMO and within 2 weeks I was a completely different person. I became introverted and didn't talk much anymore. I was no longer interested in my friends or in life. It was as if the world had lost its colours. I no longer pursued my hobbies and withdrew. Since then I have been plagued with anhedonia, brain fog and social anxiety.

    I also began to be extremely self-conscious and was insecure about my appearance. Same thing.. Crazy...

    It's only a matter of time before dopamine is back to normal baseline levels. -> DOPAMINE BASELINE LEVEL

    Can you remember how long it took for your personality to change since you started with PMO? For me it was after about 2 weeks.
     
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  15. OhWhenThe

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    I can't pinpoint when it happened, plus it was so long ago now. It took me until I was 28 to even make the connection to my porn use, up until then I just thought that's who I am and that it happened for no real reason. I was a normal, happy kid excited about life but over time I became anything but those things. The major changes were I became extremely anxious and extremely self-conscious. I never tried to date girls because I hated myself but at the time I never knew why. I hated having my picture taken and I hated looking in the mirror, I'm not even ugly but I believed I was the ugliest person on the planet and was worth nothing.

    I have to say though that I was/am an extreme case. The first thing I would do when I woke up was watch porn and when I was at school/college/work I would be dreaming about all the porn I was going to watch when I got home. Most guys like porn and looking at sexy women but it totally consumed me. Things like drinking, smoking, drugs etc never interested me so I don't believe I have an addictive personality, it's just that sex really tapped into my brain on a level that nothing else could even get close.
     
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  16. tawwab1

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    Here's my take on it. I was a VERY outgoing child. I was always outside doing something, and I'd talk to everybody. I was in the middle of everything and always had friends over at the house.

    Then, when I discovered porn at about age 11, my whole personality just got deleted. I became self-conscious, sullen, depressed, and introverted. I switched schools, but didn't make new friends except with another awkward boy who had no friends. I never talked because I had nothing to say to anyone. If any close family members asked me questions about my life, I would get emotional. I was always on a computer or game console and staying alone at home.

    For the longest time I thought what happened to me was puberty, but one day I realized that is the opposite of how puberty usually goes. Usually puberty makes boys more aggressive, and impulsive.

    Don't kid yourself dude, it's the porn. But the good thing is that you went through puberty before you discovered it, so you at least have a better idea of who you used to be. The whole period of growing up where boys act crazy and start fights and stuff is just missing from my life, so it's almost like I'm entering puberty right now in my thirties and going through that as an adult.
     
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  17. nomo

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    Does it really matter if it was porn or not that caused the change? I think the important thing now is what do you want from life TODAY. You changed for whatever reason and I don't think you like what has become of your isolated life. Start making changes to fix the isolation, get out more, make an effort to meet people, find a gf, whatever, just do something different.

    Lastly, stop watching porn. It sucks and will mess up your life. No good comes from porn so make that your first change. Do not watch porn.
     
  18. Experiment1996

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    I am 27 and I did PMO from age 13-22.

    I found out about NoFap when I was 20 years old and only then did I realise that PMO was the reason for the change in my personality. Before that I had no idea.

    That's exactly what I had because of the photo and mirror.

    Drugs and alcohol have never interested me either.

    1. Did you masturbate before the age of 18?

    2. When you started with PMO at 18, did it escalate? So did you start watching other categories and fetishes or was it always just "normal" porn?
     
  19. Experiment1996

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    Oh man. You're describing me. I totally agree with you.
     
  20. Experiment1996

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    Yes, it is important to know that PMO was the reason for this.
     
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