Intrusive thoughts and cravings

I've had/have similar problems, honestly the more time you spend clean of PMO the less "kick" those thoughts and urges have. You really just have to keep trying and learning from your relapses.

 

I suggest you visit a therapist and talk to him.
Not that this is a big deal, Surely you'll be fine sooner or later anyway. But sometimes we just torment ourselves for trivial things, without any logical reason and can't prevent it without help.

 

Trust me, if you are addicted to porn, they can get your aroused to anything they want. They can release something as weird as doorknob fetish and people will get addicted to it because they are addicted to porn. Now obviously this doesn't mean people are born with kinks for doorknobs, ofc not. Genre to genre as you progress, you start getting off to worse and worse. Losing is fine, but being fine with losing is not. You need to keep trying to succeed over this thing. Man, I ended up on cuckold porn. I was addicted to it. Trust me, I was ridiculously opposite of cuckold mentality in reality. I wouldn't even enjoy anyone hitting on my girlfriend. You see the common trend here, porn targets insecurities. First it creates them in you, by fucking your mental state. Then it uses those insecurities to sell their content. It's business man. A very well planned fucking business. They don't care about our happiness or our mental state. They just wanna earn money out of it. Those girls acting in those movies do it for money. The cucks acting in those movies do it for money. The guys acting in gay porn do it for money. You have no fucking clue they might not even be gay or cucks in reality. All this is a big fucking industry made out of insecurities. Now that I have told you the entire plot, tell me, do you think it's worth questioning your sexuality over this fking well planned business?

 

Wow, well said!

 

If you masturbate to gay porn you are gay, or some variant of LGBTQ. It happens because you have suppressed that part of your sexuality. You are afraid to express it in real life, so you do it behind closed doors where you feel safe. Porn can't bring anything out of you that wasn't there to begin with.

 

If porn has that much control of you, how much more control do you think regular media has over you? Advertisements use way more sophisticated methods than porn, and you think you aren't controlled by that? How much control does culture, society, peers have over you? A lot more than porn or even advertising.

 

If you ENJOY masturbating to gay porn you may be lgb but if it’s just part of the escalation process that porn addiction causes through desensitisation then OP is most definitely not gay.

A drug addict needs life threatening levels of a drug to feel what he once felt from day one. In this case, gay porn or any porn that one does not relate or enjoy, is that life threatening level of the drug. You don’t enjoy it, and upon finishing you’re heavily disgusted, but you do it anyway because you’re desensitised to everything else and your addiction needs a new extreme and shocking drug hit.

It’s safe to say that no one is suppressing anything, (unless they truely enjoy it, or have started out with this material and it seems natural to them). This is a known issue and is easily cured by avoiding porn and denying the addiction it’s reinforcement.

 

It’s all the porn addiction looking for its next extreme hit. You definitely are not gay. You’re probably just conditioned to respond to extreme and dirty pornographic cues. This all goes away after quitting porn, but can be reactivated with any slip up, so make sure you don’t relapse. Try and get out of the ocd cycle as well, whether that is focusing on triggers or compulsively feeding the anxiety with the various cycles that you go through. Notice that everything is a cycle.

You’ll feel good and confident in yourself and then the ocd will flash something you know isn’t real and you’ll start dwelling over it. Break that cycle as quick as possible. I’m at the end of my hocd and I’m almost completely cured, but I’m still making the mistake of focusing on irrational shit a bit too much from time to time. Keep a clear mind and don’t allow your ocd or anxiety to rationalise itself. You can control the spikes in your mind but you can control how you react to them.

 

Sounds like suppression to me. Most of the men with this problem are also religious, that creates psychological conflict, because they oppose homosexuality. You may or may not be religious. You said that the problem is highly stressful - Why? If you didn't have a problem with homosexuality you wouldn't feel stressed. You have a problem with this one genre, but previous genres you were into didn't stress you, that doesn't make sense. And you have struggled with intrusive thoughts your whole life, then obviously porn didn't cause the problem. As for feeling disgusted, even sane straight men feel disgusted with themselves after they finish fapping to straight porn, or any female imagery, or imagined situations, and realize what failures they are; or, do you feel proud after you finish fapping to straight porn?

 

He’s not trying to help, just ignore him. If he was trying to help he wouldn’t be stupid enough to say that this is suppression, since the issue is widely known in the Nofap community and has a clear solution.

Please don’t spread unjustified opinions when you don’t understand anything about what OP is actually feeling. If anything he’s “suppressing” his extreme porn addiction, not his real desires. Does that mean he’s supposed to embrace his addiction and continue watching extreme porn while genuinely hating himself for it? That sounds pretty dumb to me.

 

The idea of porn switching people's sexual orientation while watching porn - or even into the rest of one's sex life - isn't supported by everyone in the nofap community, and mainstream psychology doesn't acknowledge it as real either- not that I care. I can give my opinion on the topic because I am a former fapper and I never experienced this phenomenon of escalation where porn causes a switch in sexual orientation to the porn being watched, or into things that I'm not sexually aroused by. I have watched some disgusting porn over ten years ago, although not gay porn, out of curiosity, but because I felt disgusted by it I stopped watching it. I believe other issues are at work here, that the porn merely revealed rather than created, he did say that he had compulsive behaviours his entire life, so it would be there even without the porn. You here, those who believe this hypothesis, are actually trying to speak on my behalf by describing the nature of a masturbator as someone who is so easily manipulated by the power of porn that they can be trained to be aroused by a doorknob - to quote another post - I don't want to be included in such a group, it's degrading. And I don't think it's porn that's the problem, as some believe, it's actually masturbation that's the problem, porn has no power without it.

 

The idea about the doorknob is correct in a sense that in theory that can happen.

But to say that porn doesn’t create and merely reveals things that were already in someone is extremely off the mark as you aren’t taking into account all of the factors as to why someone would be watching this crap.

You’re just assuming that if they’re watching it they must secretly like it, and are suppressing their true desires, which is probably exactly what the current state of society wants you to think with it’s political views.

But you have to take into consideration that maybe people are forcing themselves to watch this extreme genres of porn as a form of punishment. Many porn addicts have an inferiority complex and guys who feel low self esteem and low masculinity levels might force degradation upon themselves with gay porn as a way to solidify their personal feelings of inferiority. These people are so far into the addiction that they’ve paired negative feelings with sexual arousal to create some sick and ultimately destructive dopamine rush.

That’s why pretty much every single person who goes through this porn escalation stuff really means it when they say they hate what they are watching, and are most definitely not suppressing their true desires. Why would anyone suppress a destructive and degrading lifestyle?

 

That is your opinion. However, there are too many people, like me, who have not "escalated" into gay porn. Interestingly, I've actually never heard of a gay guy "escalating" into straight porn.

Contemporary society's view is that all straight men are gay, at least a little bit. So when you guys start arguing that porn can train you to get off to gay porn you are actually agreeing with their views. You take their views even farther by arguing that one can be trained to be aroused by a doorknob. You unintentionally argue that sexuality is fluid, which is what they say it is. I disagree with both of you.

This isn't a problem caused by porn but something deeper that would be there even without porn. As I have said the porn lets you express what is already there. I don't have any answers for your specific problem as I have not experienced it. Normal straight men masturbate to porn to simulate sex, they use it as a substitute for the real thing, and we feel like crap when we finish just the same, so I don't buy it when someone says "I feel like crap after I masturbate to gay porn therefore I'm not gay."

Even "normal" porn and "normal" masturbation are worthless.

 

I don’t think sexuality is fluid at all so I don’t think we disagree, I just think you’ve misunderstood what I’m trying to say.

I’m not going to argue with you because I don’t actually care to change your mind because I know I’m right. Good for you that you never escalated to extreme porn and I hope you quit before that happens. But for the sake of everyone else who would actually take your comment seriously, don’t spread shit that they are suppressing themselves when you don’t understand an ounce of what porn addiction can do to a person.

Educate yourself before you spread definitive crap to make yourself feel better about yourself. Cheers.

 

Be strong bro, It is your preference and no f#*king industry can change that. Spend watching videos on women, respect women ,stories of porn addict ,jokes,Christian or other religious definition of love, relation ,marriage etc. on Youtube .

 

Hey, I was just like you - all the covid stuff. I think you should look into HOCD, really read up on it, it's a lot more common than you'd think. It's hell. I wouldn't wish it upon anyone. And I'd hate to see you go how I did mentally. It's awful.

Please for your sanity , start a streak now and get to at least a week and build up to those 3 months. (I managed 2 months and felt amazing and my old self again.) I had a journey of two years of mental agony with HOCD and this awful addiction so please start now and stick to it. Don't be like me , it took me two years to get to those 2 months because I wasn't mentally strong enough. So do what's best for you now rather than two years later and start that streak and get on the path to recovery.