Why does God allow suffering? Red pill part 1

I agree. But the problem I have is that many people don't want to treat these fundamental presuppositions as presuppositions. They want to claim absolute knowledge, which is not okay.

 

Unfortunately, this is kind of "by design" so to speak. We seem to be hard wired to defend these presuppositions the same way we defend our physical bodies from attack. We are willing to kill or be killed for them. They are a critical part of us and our survival instinct gets engaged when they're threatened.

The average person today would view "progress" as a result of our collective accumulation of knowledge over time; that we've gotten more organized, more stable and more humane over the last 5,000 years because of our active, conscious processing of this accumulated data. Jung looked at it as a result of natural selection and I think he's correct. People were merely avatars of their belief system and had to compete with the avatars of alternative belief systems for resources and dominance. One system (one set of gods, one set of principles, one economic theory, etc.) eventually ends up winning that competition, the avatars of the opposing system end up getting wiped out or indoctrinated and that belief system is extinguished. Repeat for 100,000 years and here we are, still not really aware of what we're doing.

This "evolution of thought" has of course gotten far more expensive now that we have hydrogen bombs and biological weapons. It's a problem but we don't really know of any other way forward.

 

Bruh wtf

 

Lmao it just a joke in repliance to those saying god is male, chill

 

If god is the totality of everything how could he just be goodness? What kind of god would make an infinite number of movies and only have them be pleasurable. The beauty i find is in epic story of earth i was born into. Things aren't perfect but at least we can work to one day make it so.

 

Throwing in my five cents after reading some other comments. I'm not debating anyone or nothing just giving insight to how I see it.

Humans are sinful and imperfect beings. We can't just throw our eggs about God into one basket because some child molesters, or rapists made their choices. Unfortunately, there is suffering in this world not just for us humans but for plants, bacteria, animals, etc. We will always have free will and choices and that choice includes the right to do evil as well as the right to do good. Animals have free will as well but we have dominion over them. Life isn't fair, it isn't perfect, we aren't perfect, but God is.

Now I'm a Christian and I'll give you a straight answer. I honestly don't know why God allows suffering. I am not God, but I am called and believe in Him and His purpose in everything. God doesn't ever mention His reasoning as to this decision. But God can feel our pain, He does know we are frustrated, and uses that to mold us as His children. Jesus is God in human form and He suffered a terrible death to save us from this world because....I think we can all agree it's not a perfect place.

 

Life is a test, we all have free will, so with free will you are unfortunately able to do bad things, which certain people commit.

If you go to heaven you can ask everything you want to God, because there are things we simple cannot comprehend.

 

Factual claims, moral claims (depending on who you talk to). There are sites which list all of these things out.

 

It is not god it is the forces of nature

 

Lmao, you got to that conclusion from that? Because let me tell you couldn't be more wrong.
But I will grant you I used to be naive like that on my early teens though.

 

Bible says insects have four legs, they don't

 

Without differentiation, you have the undifferentiated primordial mist. No night, no day; no dark, no light; no suffering, no bliss. The trick is to master suffering and live in peace and bliss. Dwelling on suffering is to suffer, so you can start straight away by shifting your attention to something that will help you strengthen yourself, and thus begin to conquer suffering.

 

You might not put girls on a pedestal, but I think we can all agree you are one sick sicko. Sicko. =oD

 

Agreed