Is this flatline? Felt good for a week then all symptoms returned (PIED, HOCD, social anxiety)

Hey brother...

I feel very similar to you, but I'm "just" at day 15 of the rebooting process. Feel zero arousal by woman. I remember, in my childhood, I had spontaneous erections to a woman, but now, I haven't.... but I'm battling with HOCD all the day too (just like you), and feel low energy and motivation... I hope these are just withdrawal symptons and they will go away with time....

Keep going man! We can't give up!!

 

@Jreeze2015

Amazing questions/observation.

1. About being tired. When your mind is fighting addiction, it costs you energy. It could be explanation for you being tired. It will go away. It did in my case and I have heard from other guys here that it has gone as well.

2. About your friends being funnier and getting laid.

Being funny is more about who you are and less about what you say.

I can tell you that NoFAP can help you with deeper connection.

From experience, one night stand is not always win-win.

(there is nothing worse than wait for her to wake up to get rid of her)

And life is not about getting laid. It can be bigger than that... ;-)

3. I have seen a video that porn can actually cause a person to be gay-curious. Obviously you see there dicks all the time. It may have some effect on you.

I am not interested in guys as well but the coolidge effect can force you in there... (looking for novelty)

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Relax, stay on the course and believe. It will get better.

It always does ;-)

 

Just keep pushing through man! It will all get better soon, keep it up!

 

This is NOT normal behavior for a 21 year old male! After 30 days, you should have lost the ed if PMO was the problem. Time to look elsewhere. Specifically, your diet. Obviously, if your seeing penises everywhere, and not attracted to women then your estrogen is too high. You need to cut soy, flax and dairy out of your diet. Just be aware that it can take an entire year for your body to remove the estrogens. There is no quick fix. Good luck.

 

I do not believe this to be true @Diesel74. Upon what evidence do you base this assertion?

I do not believe this to be true @Diesel74. Upon what evidence do you base this assertion?

 

If you were to ask this same question IGY, my response would be have your hormone levels checked and get on testosterone...but your already on testosterone, and there is no reason for a 21 y.o. to get on testosterone. If he wants to get his hormones in check, he needs to taught, or learn about estrogen dominence, xenoestrogens, and phytoestrogens. If your looking for solid data, (which I know you are) its scarce, because the goverment does not fund this research.

 

There is a good chance that you might be flatlining, but that is totally normal for how many days in you are. Do not view your lack of sexual interest in girls as "well I might be gay then" because, no, you are just kicking your addiction's ass and it's not asking for a dopamine rush as often anymore. Keep pushing forward bro. Devour the days without P/M/O like you would devour one of your favorite meals. ED WILL go away eventually as will HOCD. Never look back and keep pushing forward man.

 

Day 60 for me today; also in flat-line. I can't say from experience but I've heard TONS of guys say that it passes and you 'feel alive' for the first time in however long it is that you've been PMOing. Back in late July I got a glimpse of this. My social anxiety was gone, my motivation was unreal, I felt more balanced, comfortable in my own skin, couldn't give two fucks what anyone thought of me, I was fully expressing myself without fear for the first time I can even remember. Getting straight shit-faced for 3 days on a camping trip for my birthday kinda pushed me right back into a flat-line. Been here since August 2nd; but I'm not worried. It WILL pass bro; just wait er' out!

 

My story is similar to yours...I have 2-3 weeks in 2014 september -october, when I'm TRULY FELT HEALED. But now, I'm on day 17 on nofap, but no desire to women, and have very instrusive gay thoughts....If I can guess now, I would said that I'm gay (Because in this reboot process (this is my first serious process) I'm started to have emotionally thinking about being gay, like I never did before...), but in deep down I KNOW I liked women in my whole life, my romantic fantasies were always women...but now when I'm trying to do some romantic fantasy about women, I feel nothing...It's a very scary thing....I also do whatever to feel like in that 2-3 weeks in 2014 september-october.... I hope my desires about woman will come back...(I remember I have always wanted to hug, when I see a beautiful girl, but now, nothing....I don't feel desire)

 

IGY is way too nice to you here. I mean wtf is this even? Rebooting may take up to 2-3 years if sexual conditioning was the issue due to excessive porn use (PIED).
I've already hit my 10month mark and I'm finally able to have sex - Although not anywhere near end of recovery.

 

@Diesel74 - this sounds suspiciously like a conspiracy theory! Even if it is scarce you must be able to reference it to substantiate your bizarre assertions. See what I mean?

 

Thank you @crushurcravings and you are spot on. Btw, congratulations on the improvements you've made so far. Stick with the recovery journey my friend. IGY

 

Alright, this might help some folks out, so Ill get you guys started:

First enviromental estrogens are becoming a big problem, especially with a recycleable water supply. You can read up on that here. http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist....vironmental-estrogens-on-reproductive-organs/

Its not just the water that is causing problems, xenoestrogens are in soaps, shampoos, toothpastes, cologne, deoderants, many household cleaners. All of these these things have a subtle effect on the endoctrine system, but they add up and are overwhelming mens, womens and a great deal of other species endoctrine systems.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_u...RqDdlFoJPM8WIMpv6lsuaDTcA&nossl=1&oi=scholarr

And it gets far more distruptive when you figure in phytoestrogens. Phytoestrogens are what is found in almost every food at the grocery store. They are found in very high quanties in most processed foods and astronomically high quantites in soy and flax products. And all these this effect the labido and cause ED.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14972507

The concentrations are getting so high in that even young men like the guys on here are having problems. I would like to be able to tell you guys how to avoid these enviromental estrogens, but, they are everywhere! In the air, water, food, household products, plastic, clothing...pretty much everything you can think of. This is all pretty new to me, and like I said, there is not a whole lot of info available.