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Risky 'moves' with prostitutes

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by R2DToy, May 5, 2021.

  1. R2DToy

    R2DToy Fapstronaut

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    This might be a trigger to some people so be aware.

    When I look down the line, I went from M-ing to girls using fantasy in my youth, to M-ing on pictures, and a bunch of years later gradually to P movies.

    Anyway, at one point in my early twenties I started visiting prostitutes. It was all fine and dandy (well, maybe not) until I viewed P movies where this guy would do prostitutes without protection. I'm easily triggered by novelty, new things that can arouse me.

    And so the P movie fantasy became reality. I felt terrible after having S with this prostitute without protection. And yet moments before I was so craving for it and horny.

    Now a few years later I've had unprotected S with them a dozen times or so. I browse the ads almost every day, which I think only feeds my cravings.

    To be honest with you, lately, I'm not even going there because I want to. I'm just looking for a way to get out of this boring life. To do something extreme. But also to hope to 'feel' better because lately I went more often when I felt bad than good.

    I also noticed I go to them to create a memory, which I M to afterwards. I know I have a serious problem, but damn, my life is sooo boring and I hate my life terribly. Willpower is very 'scarse' but junkfood, videogames and prostitutes are in 'abundance'.

    I'm definitely going for the easy routes, as I've done most of my life. I'm just sick of the struggle, with my depression, anxiety and past. I don't want to fight anymore, but don't want to quit either.. I think.

    Anyway.. who else is visiting prostitutes, and has unprotected S with them, did you manage to quit? Things have spiraled out of control!
     
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  2. greenishmoon

    greenishmoon Fapstronaut

    I would never go unprotected with them. I can't figure why would they let you, either...
    Where are you from?.
     
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  3. I never sought out unprotected sex with prostitutes. It happened much more frequently than I would expect that a prostitute raw dogged me of her own volition. In the heat of the moment I could never say no.

    I'm in my 18th month of retention and will never solicit the services of a sex worker ever again. I was able to quit the same way I quit alcohol: addiction took me all the way down to the end of the rabbit hole and I surrendered.
     
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  4. Beekind

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    Heal yourself.
    It takes a bit of time.
    Your problem is anxiety.
    Do some breathwork exercises, physical exercises and meditation.
    Give yourself couple years and in due time you will be healed.

    You are seeking the thrill. The more extreme the better and if this is left untreated, you will end up in dark places doing illegal things in the persue of the thrill.
     
  5. Anyway.. who else is visiting prostitutes, and has unprotected S with them, did you manage to quit? Things have spiraled out of control![/QUOTE]

    Man having unprotected S with a prostitute is crazy , I can understand the feeling but WOW . Did you get your self checked out and tested? If not do so now. Remember in that industry its all about $$$$$$$ next time tell them you been down on your luck and ask to see them for FREE see what happens and you will understand what i am talking about
     
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  6. happy camper

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    Stop this immediately! This is just feeding into the fantasies and it will keep you hooked. You need to be smarter about the parameters you set for your recovery & reboot. Especially if you know this habit is going to eventually lead you to waste your money on hookers and also put yourself at risk for a short time of pleasure. Get out while you are still healthy and don't have to deal with long term health consequences such as HIV.

    Are you aware of p-subs?

    By replaying these memories in your head you are keeping those neural networks alive and are more likely to keep engaging in those behaviours again and again. Your willpower seems sparse because you are engaged in habits that give you a cheap dopamine boost. Have you tried a dopamine detox?
     
  7. Happy Man

    Happy Man Fapstronaut

    I can't believe you will have sex with a prostitute, without a condom. You want to get aids?

    If you meet a girl you like and have unprotected sex with her, it's not fair on her. It can happen and you could find a girl. You need to get yourself checked.

    Having sex with a P will keep you in the P and M cycle. Afterwards sex, you will want to do more M unlike in a healthy relationship with a real woman
     
  8. greenishmoon

    greenishmoon Fapstronaut

    Hey happy man I should listen to your advice.

    OP should do it too. Go to a doctor, man.
     
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  9. Happy Man

    Happy Man Fapstronaut

    Exactly, OP needs to go have it checked out and start using a condom
     
  10. Out of all the comments here, I've only counted two that offered any real advice, coupled with some sense of compassion.

    I haven't visited prostitutes, but along with PMO, I am addicted to hookup apps. I've used that as a means of a P-substitute - because you can exchange NSFW pictures and talk sensually with other people in your area - and then actually meet up for S. During my reboot journey I found that my mind is not necessarily always craving P, but actually the hookup apps because it can get the best of both worlds...P and S.

    I understand the struggle. And the urge to hookup seems stronger than the urge to just look at P. All I can say from my own experience is to tell yourself that the for the first few weeks, you'll have to battle hard against your mind, which will beg you to hookup with prostitutes again. But if it's anything like the hookup apps for me, the urges slowly get weaker and it'll be more manageable.

    And yes, it would be prudent to get tested for STDs. I have done that myself more than once due to my actions with these hookup apps. Fortunately, the tests all came out negative. But I plan to get tested again in a few weeks because I'm only in my 8th day of NF as I'm typing this. Which means before that I relapsed. And guess what I relapsed to? Yep. Hook up apps. So right now, my mind is tormenting me to get back on those apps. But I'm fighting through it. And I know as I get further into my streak it'll get easier.

    Hang in there, friend. Take it one day at a time. I know your struggle. I know how intense the urges are and how they can be stronger than just regular P sessions. I understand the worry of "What if these urges will never go away?" so you're tempted to just surrender and cave into them. But trust me, the urges will eventually get weaker if you don't act on them and entertain them in your mind. You just need to power through the first few weeks. Then you'll have momentum on your side. You got this. Just take it one step at a time.
     
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  11. R2DToy

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    Well I've done it multiple times again unprotected since I posted this topic, sometimes it was a nice experience with them because you're 'living the P fantasy', but after yesterday I felt awful again. I know it's not good for me, but I did it anyway.

    I do get my tests after every visit; a month after and a blood check 3 months after, that's the minimum wait time for different checks for all the STD's. All negative so far.

    I'm not even ugly, dumb or uneducated, I go there when A) I'm very horny or B) I'm not really horny but feel like punishing myself with risksy behavior.

    It's basically self-destructive behavior because I hate my boring life and myself. And probably also bad experiences from the past which sort of, put me in the pattern of punishing. Punishing myself, as if I'm just a walking piece of meat with no value that needs to be treated poorly.

    Sometimes I also wonder if I'm just 'kinky' or that P made me that way, as if it was just a leap that I needed to take, but already knew what I wanted.

    Anyway I never had a GF in my life, plenty of oppertunities were there, but I was always scared and didn't know how to expand on these oppertunities. Now, mid thirties, still single, and severely unsatisfied with life, covid crap on top of it, and prostitute visiting all eliminates chances of getting a GF. And don't get me started on dating apps, they only really work for women and are money traps for men. My failure is their business model.

    In the past I did get some help with this prostitute problem, but I have much too little willpower to stop myself and am also very stubborn. I suffer from depression and anxiety for about 15 years now. Never had S with a 'real' woman and never had a GF, it breaks you as a man. I'm also a sensitive person, and my bad abusive and violent experiences from the past have added their part to the burden I'm carrying every day. There are some better moments, now and then, but they never last.

    Been talking to dozens of different mental health care professionals including psychologists and psychiatrists, I'm doing better than years ago, but I can't say that all this talking really helped in that. I do have meds, I've been thinking about upping/adding meds, but kinda worried about the side effects for example I don't want to get fat. I just don't see a 'way out' anymore. Sometimes I even believe I don't want to change. It's so damn difficult to find the energy anymore to throw at this wall of negativity that stands in my way. It feels utterly futile and as a result, my bad urges get their way.

    On top of all this, I also have ED. I need to use blue pills. So this, and the prostitute visits also withhold me from even thinking about dating. It's much too embaressing, and I couldn't live with giving some other woman an STD without an all clear check from the doctor. Even then, you still have sleeping STD's that you can't test for. I just don't see it happen anymore that I will ever be happy and have a family, despite all other good qualities I might have. I have a strong sense that I am going to die alone without any wife or kids.

    But what's the alternative to prostitutes and P? M-ing is getting boring and I know watching P is bad for you. OK, so let's not watch P. But how do you remove these urges? I really don't understand how people have the willpower to even begin to change. I've tried thinking differently, doing different things, I never finish what I start and go back to the old situation. Seems almost as if I don't want to change anymore, sick of everyone telling me what I should and shouldn't do, even though I know I need the help. It's the feeling of helpnessless that gets to me. Now..

    You can't play games because it's not good for you and are a waste of time.
    You can't eat junk food because it's unhealthy and makes you fat.
    You can't M, watch P, or visit prostitutes because it's bad for your brain, behavior and health.

    Are there any enjoyable things I can do? These three are the next best things.

    I've got so many things going on in my mind at a time, it's unmanageable. I don't know what I should focus on first, what to tackle first, what to replace 'bad' habits with, it's just too much. I don't even know why I am even writing anymore, except that it's good to get it on 'paper' and out of my mind.
     
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  12. My friend i have been there. Raw is a thrill.. I remember one escort literally jumped on me and never even bothered with the condom bc she liked my approach I guess. I used ti fantasize to it for months after. It's real and memories are sometimes our hardest obstacle.

    I have done it raw a few times accidentally too because condoms aren't hard to break if you are really going at it. It's been scary and exhilarating. I know what you mean and thankfully I don't feel this drive anymore. I have other challenges but not the same ones. Yes they do get boring.

    What you really need is connection.

    Most porn addicts in here don't know what we are talking about buT you are probably a sex addict. Look it up. I was a both for several years. I spent a lot of money to have what i wanted. But what we want at the end of the day is companionship. Connection. Real trust. Acceptance. All these things defeat self hate and end self-loathing cycled.
     
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  13. R2DToy

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    @need4realchg Thanks for your reply. It's extra tough to 'find' this connection with women now because I feel like I shouldn't be dating the next three months. The hiv blood test is only really reliable after three months of contact. So basically, the next three months are wasted time.

    Of course, there are condoms, but I don't think I'll be able to forgive myself if it would break and she caught some STD.

    I'm also terribly worried about this bare prostitute past of mine. I would never want her to find out about it because I'm pretty sure almost all women would be disgusted if they find out their man has visited prostitutes, not to mention bare. It would be game over then.

    My self esteem was already crap around women, now that Covid's here I see my chances of getting a relationship going down the drain even further. I have a lot of self hate because I feel like I'm not putting in the effort to get a date. At the same time the poor self esteem and severe anxiety are holding me back, so I become angry at myself for not overcoming it. And that's when I start to do the prositutes bare, not only do I miss the literal human touch, intimacy, but it has to be bare because a condom doesn't provide any thrill anymore, but weirdly enough I feel the odd need to punish myself by risking an STD. It's obvious this is self destructive behavior.

    Every night I have the same thoughts - how on earth am I ever going to stop visiting the prostitutes, find a way to eleminate the anxiety around women, AND solve the ED problem. I feel worthless. The weird thing is, on the outside I appear quite normal. I'm not ugly, not stupid, not uneducated. not unmannered etc. People consider me attractive, but on the inside I'm a wreck. All the looks, skills, whatever, in the world are worthless if you don't have confidence.

    I did receive help at one point about this and other sexual problems, but I don't have the damn willpower and energy to complete the assignments to fix them. I feel like something inside doesn't want help and stay in the comfort zone. I wonder if these are signs of far grown addiction. I never feel like professionals are taking me seriously about these issues, because I also suffer from depression, I have problems acknowledging and expressing my feelings, and I also feel my past is still haunting me. In other words, I feel pretty f-ed up, and don't really see a way out anymore.
     
  14. FutureKing

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    A prostitute who will let men fuck her raw is making some fucking terrible career choices. Sounds like streetwalkers. Have some pride and at least make the step up to AMPs or Call Girls.

    Around here, if an escort gets an STD she practically is forced to retire.

    Also do you want HPV? Because that's how you get HPV.
     
  15. R2DToy

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    You shouldn't make such assumptions. Also, as if prostitutes who do it raw don't already know that. Why did you even type that reply, you're not contributing anything except some generic babble we all already know.
     
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  16. Dizzy Lotus

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    Hi R2DToy! [​IMG] In my experience, and I've heard this from other people too, the most fulfilling thing you can do is something creative. If you regularly create something, you will probably be a lot happier and start finding enjoyment in everyday activities as well.
    Examples: composing music, drawing, playing an instrument, cooking, needlework, programming... feel free to think of your own. [​IMG]
    These activities aren't easy to do, though. You have to put in real effort to get started on a work of art, and unless you are some kind of natural you will have to gain a lot of experience before your creative skills in any given field will be up to a standard that one could look up to. But the process of getting there is so fulfilling!
    Creative activity also uses a whole lot of parts of the brain, I think, which helps rewiring. And you get dopamine from the result. [​IMG]
    Good luck, and have fun! [​IMG]
     
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  17. If you have a gym get there and start serious weight training, this does many positive things.
    1. It builds confidence.
    2. It’s makes you stronger mentally.
    3. It can be exciting to see your body change and strength go up.
    4. Chicks dig a built guy.
    5. Train hard you can indulge in some junk food and still look good
    No excuses go get started this along with your other tools in your chest you can beat
    this shit

    Exercise builds endorphins feel good chemicals

    Do It
    No More Excuses
     
  18. Wolf7

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    The one thing that will fix this issue completely for you and 100% make sure you never do it again is when you contract HIV or AIDS, even Herpes. You’ll have a lifelong disease that will affect your physically and mental well-being, ability to have children, and any and ALL romantic relationships you enter. If you do not disclose your status and pass it to another because you’re afraid, you will get a sentence of life in prison because in the United States passing one of those diseases knowingly is an attempted murder charge and Carrie’s a pentalty of 30 years to life.
     
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  19. Sorry to contradict you but even this isn't true. If fear is your motivation it fails. It never works. Love changes us. Fear traps us.
     
  20. Wolf7

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    This isn’t fear, it’s fact of the matter. Love is something that comes from within, it cannot be produced outwardly. With all the “love” in the world one can’t begin to understand it or even truly accept it if it’s not something they feel internally. OP will quit once he contracts a terminal STD/STI. That’ll stop him
     
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