Is your Environment successful ?

The environment is important, though what you're talking about also involve time - more specifically developmental fulcrums/milestones (like puberty) and not just X number of years gone by. It's important to understand there are stages, and of course it gets more complicated when it gets derailed or healthy development never happens so one doesn't move on to the next stage of development. The same could probably be said for recovery but as far as I know that's not really looked at in much depth other than maybe a really keen psychotherapist. The 12 Steps isn't a developmental thing though ACOA might deal with that to some extent, but I'm not aware of any understanding of the long term process just the concept of an adult child and kind of parenting oneself.

 

Well there's that but plenty of people become psychologically dysfunctional in the West without being involved in such things. Well, I mean it would fall into the fourth category but it can be rather subtle. And if you figure in how people may have no sympathy for someone with a different background other than themselves, even though they have all been subject to some form of dysfunction .. it probably doesn't work well. I'm afraid the sad truth today, here from what I see is there are people walking around who will never even get that they have been a negative influence in others lives, whether that's in a childs developmental process or otherwise. Nevermind owning it and trying to make amends as traditional recovery suggests, I mean how's that going to work if they don't even recognize they harmed anyone? Frankly I think too many people are too dense.

 

I don’t agree. I went to a low-income school and saw plenty of people from tough situations, but some of those kids channeled their trauma into amazing achievements. Other guys I know grew up with all the right boxes checked and are complete losers. We don’t know how much of the world is destiny, environment, and genetics.

That, and infringing on birth as a civil liberty is pretty bad in the US and Europe. People would riot. We love our rights. There has to be a better solution than mandatory birth control.

and no, my environment was not successful. But I still graduated top of my
class at a competitive university and got a decent job and a lovely girlfriend. I understand it’s tough and some people really struggle at the bottom but mandatory birth control is wack.

 

Eh. I grew up poor as hell, but because of my....weirdness, I was able to lift myself out of it. While I'm not wealth hungry, Mo Money, Mo Problems an all, I do have enough to live in relative comfort, so I'd say my environment taught me a few things. Like appreciation of "little things."

Was it geared toward success? Hell no, it was geared toward joining a gang and dying by the age of 23. Luckily my home life was vastly different to the many children who are now either dead or in prison. My parents worked very hard to provide for this weird child who wanted nothing much at all and their hard work ethic passed onto me.

Overall - I wouldn't change anything in my childhood at all.

 

Definitely what I thought about. There are tons of examples of people who gone through hell and mastered life just because of what their been through. In fact when it's harder in life that what makes it easier for them because they are more "bullet-proof" or shall I say "life-proof"?

One example is David Goggins you probably know him already.

 

David Goggins is the perfect example. Love this dude.

 

My mother in law’s family survived because her mum had to be an escort just to make enough money. They all turned out successful, it just took a generation. Kids shouldn’t be killed because they were placed in situations they cannot control, and especially killed by the government or a mandate.