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Being satirical has to stop in NoFap Off-topic

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by modern milarepa, Jul 5, 2021.

  1. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    I think being satirical is a minor form of mental illness. You become a joke and your mind is in an altered mental state when you are being satirical.

    You loose respect from your peers, you make others uncomfortable and it's quite childish. You don't give healthy entertainment. So what is the point of being satirical?

    Conclusion: No more satire in the off topic forum and nasty topics, let's have healthy fun.

    Hug
     
  2. That's the unfortunate reality. You will see the same 5-6 people, posting negative stuff constantly, attacking others political or religious views. If you go look at their content feed, almost all of it is negative. These guys don't welcome new members, these guys don't support people going through struggle. All their posts do, is attack the moderation staff, or other users or society in general etc.
    Conspiracy Theory: Maybe these guys are being paid by porn companies to intentionally create a toxic environment at NoFap. Judging by the lawsuit and previous attacks on this website, anything is possible.

    What can you and I do about it? I came here for recovery and a helpful community, so I will focus on doing my part to help anyone that I can. Dare I suggest you should also do the same. If we don't feed the negativity, at least it won't corrupt us and make us bitter as well. It's like a zombie virus, it spreads if you let it get to you.

    Good Luck!
    -J29
     
  3. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    This is important just ignore them. Some of them are clever and nice guys with good hearts. I would prefer if they simply stop the trolling and use their minds in a positive constructive way.
     
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  4. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

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    Maybe it's conceited to assume you're talking about me and the boys, but if you aren't, who are you talking about exactly?
     
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  5. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    I'm talking about you and the guys. Who else could it be. It's not healthy for your mind to hide yourself in layers of sarcasm.
     
  6. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    And you're basing this on what exactly?
     
  7. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    Let's start with your status

    "you walk along in the dark long enough, you start to feel like the light never come"

    This is something sarcasm can do it clouds your real you and the light of your mind, sure sarcasm can show creativity but is tainted with irony, negative abstraction and usually some type of hidden hatred towards something.
     
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  8. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    It's a quote from a videogame lol. A lot of my statuses are quotes.
     
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  9. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    Nonetheless it caught your attention.
    But tell me my atomic friend what good does trolling and being satirical does to your mind? How is this beneficial or fun to others? Who have you helped being like this?

    You seem pretty evasive whenever I talk seriously to you. Let's discuss this. I know you like to discuss on threads.
     
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  10. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    It caught my attention because I was playing the game it came from and thought it would make for a cool update. I do that a lot, take quotes I like and use them as status updates. My signature quote is from the same series (points to anyone who guesses what series.)

    I'd argue trolling and being satirical are not the same thing and should not be use interchangeably as though they are. Trolling implies that you are doing something, usually negative, just to get a reaction from people. Being satirical is just a form of comedy. When I make joke status updates or joke threads, they usually lean towards just being absurdist as opposed to either of the former things. When I post about the antichrist or Motherfucker Mike Matei or of things of that nature, I'm not trolling and I'm not being satirical; the joke, the entire extent of the joke, is either the absurdity of the content presented (in the case of the antichrist stuff) or making references to things (like most of my other jokes.) Nothing more, nothing less. If anyone sees anything else in those posts, well that's on them.

    Posting like this does nothing more than provide me, and potentially others, with entertainment, and I'm not sure why the posts need to offer more than that.

    Like I said on the previous thread, I act like this sometimes because I am often not taken seriously even when I try to be, so I may as well have a little fun while I can. I'm not hurting anyone by doing this, and if I have to be totally blunt, I find the idea that people view me and the other posters as some sort of negative influence on the site more than a little absurd.
     
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  11. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    Being sarcastic it's starting to sound like a coping mechanism. You are losing face. Does being a clown is more important to you than your character. Having character is everything at least it's more important than knowledge.

    And it's something I've seen too in SickSicko and I've told him that he is still inmature but sometimes he has a deep thinking process and say deep things but it's like he can't talk without being sarcastic so you don't know if he is sarcastic, trolling or being serious. So people get confused even if what you are saying is important. Your public image becomes distorded.

    I like to have fun and usually I spend a good amount of time making fun posts in off topics but being sarcastic I think it confuses people, makes them uncomfortable, it ruins your public image, it's a deluded mental state. I don't think is an innocent form of comedy.
     
  12. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    Let's change tack on this for a moment seen as how you seem to have honed in on this tiny part of what I wrote.

    Why should I care at all about what strangers on the internet think of me? The people who know me know me and that's what matters, not the opinions of randoms. Why should I change who I am as a person to appease someone elses concept of how I should behave?

    A coping mechanism? To cope with what?
     
  13. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    We are a community trying to help each other and have a nice time. Good manners and healthy humor are essential to human interactions even if the other person is a stranger, we all deserve respect. Even if it's the internet we are all real. Unless you create a fictional sarcastic character.
     
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  14. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    Maybe because you are no taken seriously as you said. Others use sarcasm and trolling because they realized the page is full of deluded people and most posts have no use in their porn addiction recovery so they specifically use their sarcasm to take down specific groups on the page like incels, extreme vegetarians the nofap moderators or whoever they think deserve to be unmasked.

    What valuable character in history or spirituality has used sarcasm a a way to communicate. I mostly see inmature kids behind a screen doing it.

    One should talk on the internet as one talks in real life, otherwise you are just fake. Being authentic, real and sincere is one of the best qualities a person can have.
     
  15. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    I've been on the site for four years. The overwhelming majority of my posts are involved in discussing NoFap, PMO addiction, getting help and helping others. The rest might be jokes but I still don't get why that is a bad thing. Nothing about my recent posts are disrespectful or lacking in manners. Once again, they are jokes.

    You misunderstand what I meant when I said that. On this site I am not taken seriously when I try to talk about serious issues pertaining to, in this specific case, moderation and the way the site is run. That much is obvious. So instead I poke fun and make jokes. I genuinely believe one of these days I will get banned for doing nothing worthy of it and when that happens I will have no recourse, so I may as well have some fun on here while I still can.

    Who cares about what valuable character has used sarcasm? Why are you psychoanalysing this situation to such a degree?

    I guarantee you 99% of people on the internet don't act online exactly the way they do in real life. Anyone who says they don't modify their behaviour to even a mild degree is either a liar or is delusional.
     
  16. BugsBunny555

    BugsBunny555 Fapstronaut

    Your persona on the internet is a picture instead of a video.

    Picture - We see what's only going in the picture. Nothing moves everything remains constant. I behave very differently in RL than I do on the internet.

    We all put on masks, whether we do it intentionally or not.

    For example mines bugs bunny, but that's unrelated

    A movie is fluid and ever changing, just as were are in real life.

    It's important to know we all embody an archetype and this can change when on the internet.

    Not everything needs to be beneficial or have some sort of progres.

    Satire is purely recreational. I enjoy satire, because its fun. I get nothing out of it other than my own enjoyment and I have no plans on stopping it.

    It's also a coping mechanism. I.E gallows humor, this helps keep people sane in stress situations.


    Internet satire and trolling does not distort your public image, because we are two different personas on and off the internet.

    There is a point where it borders on the extreme and its important to know our boundaries. And we should word it that way.

    This forum would be extremely boring without it.

    But there are posts when we should be serious and others when we should not. We all engage in this behavior, and it will not cease.
     
  17. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    I'm a physician so my job and what I like to do is helping others and understand them also I like to have fun. This post is not about you specifically, I've only seen some of your posts and I don't know about the antichrist or the other thread you mentioned

    But I think I've a sense of what people like and feeling the general vibe of a place I'm in and what can create a distorted mental state.

    But you specifically asked about yourself on the first posts of this thread so we may as well talk about you.

    And still from what we talked I believe sarcasm is not healthy for the human mind.
     
  18. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    I really think you are overthinking this at this point. I am sure if you asked every single person why they post weird/surreal/shitposty kinda stuff, they will tell you they do it primarily because it is funny. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, sometimes joke posts are just jokes.
     
  19. modern milarepa

    modern milarepa Fapstronaut

    Only the pure satiric ones create a satiric character on the internet. I don't create a fictional character at all on the internet. I'm not an actor, it hurts my head to pretend to be someone I'm not. I did it once in a 5 min play at the university and it was a nightmare.

    I still think is bad for you and it creates a bad vibe on the forums. Usually only satires or trollers like other trollers.
     
    Last edited: Jul 6, 2021
  20. BugsBunny555

    BugsBunny555 Fapstronaut

    I don't think so.

    It's only to have fun, plus I like to remain as anonymous as possible when going around the internet. Especially sites dealing with porn and sexual recovery.

    There's plenty of "trollers" I don't like, but I won't name them, because that would be accusatory and I prefer to stay away from drama.
     

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