P.A.W.S. - what are they, cure, duration

@Grateful Retainer Congratulations man. Good to see another soldier making' it to the other side.

 

Just whatever you do, I wouldn’t hop back into dating too quickly. If I were you, I’d still practice retention just for a couple more months to be on the safe side.

 

Congrats!!! @Grateful Retainer I'm really happy for you man.

 

Is it pure hardmode for 20+ months or there were some relapses?
I also would be grateful if you elaborate on fatigue and depression, did they also subside gradually?

 

Thanks for the well wishes everybody, it means a lot to me. I just want to give back to the community by spreading my message of hope. Also I agree that it would be prudent to continue with retention a little while longer before dating again.

Thankfully I didn't really have depression this time except for bad days here and there. Depression was a killer when I was going through alcohol related PAWS. On a side note, I think part of the reason PAWS has been relatively mild for me this time is because I've already gone through it once before.

This was 20 months of semen retention except for an involuntary ejaculation about a month ago or so. I didn't watch porn, masturbate, or have sex. I'll admit to having a bunch of sexual thoughts throughout the process but that didn't bother me. When I got sober it didn't matter to me whether or not I thought about drinking as long as I wasn't drinking. I applied the same mindset to this challenge.

I had my ups and downs with fatigue but the overall trend was slow and gradual improvement. A few weekends I was completely bedridden with fatigue, especially during the first year. There was a long stretch, especially while briefly unemployed, where I would shut down for three hours in the afternoon and take a nap. I wouldn't even be tired it was my body just sending the order to shut down so the brain could work overtime in repairing itself.

Headaches were also bad during the first year and gradually got better. Right now my head feels fresh, I can't think of a better word to describe it.

 

Thanks for the detailed reply, wish you the best in life, stay sober man

 

Congrats fam. I'm not out of the wood yet. But I can't wait to share my own testimonies. If someone told me years ago that pmo reboot was this hard, I would have told them they are fully of shit. My respect goes to everyone who made to the other side or even embarked to the nofap lifestyle.
Congrats again

 

I Wanna suicide guys. I've been in flatline 6 years ago but continuing masturbating EVERY DAY with a hard flaccid dick... I never know about nofap or flatline... Pied until 2014, in 2015 started flatline but I ignored it(my flatline strarted when I was circumcised and for a week I can't masturbate bacause the operation and I lost all my sex drive) . I don't know a case like mine.. I don't know what to do... If people here abstain and then they are in flatline for like 20 months without orgasm.. How can I cure if I PMOing every day continuing orgasms in flatline for 6 years?... I'm trying to find someone like me I'm disperate.. I am The worst case on internet probably.

 

@Grateful Retainer
When did your libido start showing signs of life?
I’m at month 10 now and mine is still poor!

 

I think around month 16 or so is when it first started coming back

 

Sorry for my English can someone see my post here

 

Cheers, still time for me then.

maradona, you need to start your journey of abstinence now. It’s going to take a while and be horrible but you will recover, everyone will as long as you stay on the right path

 

There are very bad cases. I don't think yours is the worst. The only thing you can do is quit PMO and be strong because it can take very long to heal.

 

I know, I'm just afraid of being incurable and putting 10 years of hardmode on it, because staying flatline for 6 years and not knowing it and continuing to masturbate every day without skipping one seems like a basket case .. But yes, I will hardmode for at least 2 years or more

 

Noone here has beeno in flatline for 6 years ignoring it and continuing in compulsive masturbation, I can be one 9f the worst case

 

First of all I would like to say to you that actual Suicide makes no logical sense. My dad committed suicide and it was a huge bitch move. I think if he were here and saw the destruction it caused on everyone he loved, even he would say it was at this point. That being said you are going to have to commit suicide in a sense on this journey. You are going to have to kill off the person that you are, and become a completely new guy. The guy who is weak, who runs to porn every time he feels bad, or bored, or lonely can no longer exist. You have to become a completely new man!

Stop listening to the part of you that says you are helpless or the worst case in the world, or you will never recover. Everyone here at times has probably thought those things. I know I have. It’s kinda the nature of flatline. You wouldn’t believe the insane things my mind has thought up in the past year and a half while in PAWS. That is just the weak addicted part of you trying to draw you back, or in your case keep you in slavery.

You will recover if you put your time in, we all will. You will never recover if you buy the lie that you are unrecoverable and kick the can down the road for the next 25 years like I did, and continue in your addiction all the time saying to yourself “well this is just the way I am.” Every time you recognize those lies for what they are and choose not to believe them you put a knife in the heart of the guy that you were. And who knows you may be one of the lucky ones who recovers in a few months. You will never know unless you start.

 

Dude I'm in reboot for 7 years on and off with 16mo hardmode included as the longest streak. 4 years with ACUTE withdrawals and 1 month away from hitting 3 years in deep PAWS. So you're not the only worst case here.

 

I read your story,but you know about your paws/flatline, I ignored flatline for 6 years continuaming fapping EVERY DAY with a hard flaccid syndrome.. So it's a little different..

 

i am flatling for 16 months. i still get anxiety panic feeling in brain when i see my eyes lands on skin of any girl. any help pls

 

Sorry you caught Covid Don. I got it back in October and it was utter hell. I hope you feel better and have no long term effects.