I have POIS after 5 years of being clean

Hi

My 1st post on this account but Im a long term member, just moved on a deleted old account.

Im on no PMO for 5 years. Got rid of my P addiction. Had serious hard mode streaks of 200 and 300 days and many lower streaks of months. These streaks were only interrupted with sex with woman and few slips.

I was able to cure my serious PIED. And that was my goal. Now I can have a normal sex, unbelievable - I was a PMO addict since for good 25 years+ ... now Im 38. Apparently when I started, there was no internet so it was not so damaging thanksfully.

ANYWAY

Now when I reached my goal and I can have a normal sex, I face another problem. POIS.

If I have a ejaculation, the next day Im tired but feel good, but the day after that, I start to suffer A LOT. My willpower goes to zero. My mental state goes to depressed, anxious, I start to look like crap. And this goes for one week. Very very very bad week. Than next week is better. And after these 14 days I start to feel good again.

When I was in my addict phase, I could have 4 Os a day and not feel anything. Now I cant have 1 O a month. Basically, I cant have ejaculation.

The ejaculation after 30o+ days streak was destructive to me as well. I even started to have a pain in my joints all over the body, it was nasty.

I think its like this for last 2 years.

Is it still the reboot process? Will it get better? Why I was able to have many orgasms few years back and now I cant have any, when I got rid of the addiction and rebooted?

Thanks for opinions.

 

Thanks for reply Dromus. I have considered this in a past and I dont think so. During this summer I have experimented with having more O with my GF. Tried once a week and it was terrible experience. One time I had 2x O a session and after that I felt suiciadal and absolutelly mentally unstable. I never felt like this in the past, no way.

Not when I had 4x O a day 5 years ago. Not when I had occasional O with my ex 3 years back.

I think something changed after those 200+ and 300+ days of hard mode streaks.

 

POIS is post orgasmic illness syndrome. Which is the closest thing to describe what I have. I must avoid orgasm because otherwise I feel extremely bad for 1 week and 2nd week is bad as well. After that I start to feel normal.

I would not write about it here if it was not out of ordinary. I know orgasm is draining and yada yada but this ia something else unfortunatelly and it started after the big hard mode streaks I had.

To answer other questions, I live a healthy life. Food wise and sport wise. I hate gym. But I do cardio outside and excerxise outside as well.

Im in MUCH better shape after 5 years of NoFap than I was prior to that - yet the orgasms are killing me now. It just doesnt make any sense :/

Maybe thats why I made a account and went here to ask, if anyone has any experience with it. It might be a part of reboot process still and might get better in few more years, I have no idea.

Currently Im DONE experimenting with it and decided no more ejaculation for me in no way.

But that is a failure, because I did the reboot and everything so I can have a normal relationship and sex. Which I cant now. Btw im 38yo.

Thanks for opinions so far.

 

The number one requirement is:

NEVER GIVE UP

I "failed" many times, but I always regrouped and soldiered on immediatelly. And its not a failure, if you learn from it! And thats what u must do. Analyze every slip, learn from it, get better, try to not make same mistake twice.

You will gain the required skill set as you go on - If you really want to succeed. I talk abou hard mode here.

1st is to set a goal. Number of days you want to secure. Starting with 300 is not realistic. I started with 36. And I motivated myself insanely to get that number, in that part - failure was not a option. So I succeeded. Than I started to aim higher. 60... than the golden 90.. 100.. 200... 300...

To get to the higher numbers, you absolutely need to conquer your thoughts and ideas. If you start fantasizing about sex at day 150, you WILL fail at day 170. If you start edging, you already lost.. just 10 days in future. Touch yourself, indulge in fantasy - its over - just in few more days.

So u must learn to kill every sex idea at its birth. Thats important skill..

Higher streaks are not achieved by mere stron(k) will. That will get you only so far, but not to 300. It will all reveal itself to you, same as it revealed to me. The skills are universal, and you cant evade learning them, if you go on and on and on and learn from every mistake. Than 100 will be nothing. And 300 is 3 times nothing.

Ultimately, the idea of masturbation will get alien to you. And watching pixels? Thats absurd to me. Its a life style. You dont masturbate, end of story. You dont watch pixels, why would you? I had so many dates with woman since I went on NoFap. Getting a woman is no longer any problem to me. Its a matter of days if I decide so. But if I masturbated, than I cant get a woman easily - low selfesteem, bad looks, slow brain - so masturbation means no woman for me. Thats a bad trade. Why would I do such a exchange?

But having a woman is another set of things to conquer. Its easier without em to me, they distract me from my goals, they tend to drain me.. you must be really strong to keep your focus if in relationship imho. But thats another topic.

 

I agree. Does the 2 cups of coffee make u borderline suiciadal tho?

But yes I agree with your general way of thinking. Ultimately I think it has something to do with my previous over-indulging in PMO as well.

Like a real alcoholic gets totally wasted after 1 beer.

 

I agree about listening to your body and respecting it. My body really really doesnt enjoy ejaculation atm and Im gonna respect it. Im nearing 3 weeks no orgasm and finally start to feel normal after tha last one, which was after 3 weeks no orgasm as well... thats 1 orgasm in 6 weeks and it was incredibly taxing to me.

I can have a great sex without it. Really fullfilling... Ill keep my semen only for procreation. Will listen to my body..

As for the question if I tried chaneling the sex energy towards more noble goals... yes indeed The retention is really miraculous on many levels. I believe it takes my consciousness to higher levels. It can do incredible things to our lives, if we hold it.. its magical.

 

I think I might have kind of brainwashed myself into believing ejaculation is really bad, and now my body acts according to that belief.

There are many possibilities of why its happening.

Maybe my body really likes the retention and this is the way its telling me.

Maybe my psyche is so suffering that hard mode is the only thing holding me above. I kind of think this is partially the case.

Maybe Ive destroyed myself by too much orgasms in the past..

Maybe my dopamine receptors are fried and when I hit em with ejaculation rush they just shut down and I feel that doom afterwards. Thats also partially what I think is happening.

Most likely its all of this combined. Yay..