How u felt after 200+ days hard mode orgasm?

I’ve been abstaining from pmo for bout 9 months that’s bout 300 days and I tell u after orgasms/sex I face bout the same symptoms even more from looking 5 to 10 years older down suicidal thoughts and I hate the fact that I have those thoughts but I face more things such as dizziness, jolt while I sleep, nerve pain etc

 

same man, i’ve gone 240 days and relapsed and it’s like falling from heaven. everything sucks after relapse all the things you mentioned and more

hope you get back up there this year

 

It's wild to see the impact it has on some people.

Personally, relapsed after nearly 400 days free of MO and around 420 free of Porn. I went autopilot for a few months (1-2 times a week), I definitely did not feel great, but I also didn't go back to step 1. Given I was relapsing for a few months at that time, I felt a shift in my mental health. More anxiety/depression and definitely more fatigued.

Recently relapsed after 184 days, just felt a bit of a loss of motivation. The rest is more or less the same though.

Is this after 1 orgasm? If it is, may I ask, is it possible that you have had some sort of trauma associated to your orgasm (whether when you were younger or at some point in your life)? Could it be psychosomatic and causing all those symptoms to reemerge after an orgasm? Or do you think it is post orgasmic illness syndrome (POIS)?

 

I'm sorry to hear that man, PMO really messes with the nervous system and clearly affects us all on a different level. And I hope this is a temporary part of your life, I agree it's difficult to be celibate for the rest of ones life. I remember watching a video of POIS on youtube, about a guy who abstained for about 3 or 4 years and then was cured from it. He tested by having sex again and it was fine. Not sure if it will end up being the same situation as you or not, but perhaps that may provide a timeline.

Apart from that, you mentioned being unsure about psychosomatic source. Try your best to explore your past and emotions, see if anything comes up(I know this isn't a 1 day process either)

Good luck and keep us posted!

 

I think it happens bc we forget how much it will devastate us. we try to get too close to the edge. we think we can handle it. In the future, we should try not to go past the 75-80% threshold of excitement.

this happened in the past, i’ve learned from it since and i think it’s best to stay celibate as long as possible until you really connect w someone. And then you have to make an internal commitment not to ejaculate no matter what if you do have sex

how committed were you to staying on retention when you busted with those women after several hundred day streaks? Were you really trying to retain and those just accidents, or did you simply let your guard down and think it might not be so bad if you just did it once?

 

I went on for 1 year + with semen retention. What caused me to relapse was watching porn and edging constantly. At one time I was edging, I accidentally released when I wasn't planning to. I came too much to the edge. From there on the train started moving. The chaser effect was powerful and powerful and it didn't let me stay clean for more than 1 month. I started relapsing like every month, then the window got smaller and smaller until I was back relapsing multiple times a day watching all sorts of porn.

Slowly I felt my focus, clarity and all the other good benefits dwindling away. But in the first time I relapsed. Ofcourse I felt so bad for breaking the streak. But the physical effects started coming after a few times of relapsing. I leasized, in this business, it only takes one domino to take down the whole house.

 

I agree it feels like falling from heaven hitting the jagged rocks below.

Working up the nerve to walk this road only to fall off the edge is disheartening and it messes with you if this practice is high on your list of values, when it's thrashed due to foolish actions it does hurt a lot.

I noticed in myself that the annoyance of little things become greater, foggy mind, slowness, aggression, depression, anhedonia to the max.

But when I am up, the sun is shining, music sounds better, the bigger picture is all I see, not sweating the details like before, everything is just better when on the straight and narrow.

It's much better being a good man.

 

@Legacy of Lost Soul have you seen a difference with diet and exercise paired with SR for energy levels and clear mind?

 

Hey Guys, My POIS symptoms follow the exact same pattern as the OP. I've always just pushed through or taken a spiritual approach like semen retention but this created issues with my pelvic floor. I've recovered from the pelvic floor pain but I'm not messing around with abstaining for long periods or energy practices. I have to face that it is not normal to feel brain fog or depression after an orgasm. This is a medical condition and should be treated as such. Here are a couple of recent studies on POIS from a medical perspective. One case was successfully treated with Allegra. I spoke with my doctor about this and he encouraged me to try it and so far it's been successful. I've also tried fenugreek, garlic, and niacin before O (not all at once) and achieved some success with each but so far Allegra has been the best. I've also been speaking with a therapist about this and we are trying to get at the root cause of this issue from a mental/emotional perspective. This actually helps a lot when it comes to taking action and getting clear on what you're experiencing. POIS may occur in different people for different reasons but I do often see a link with porn use, sex addiction, etc. Again this may be an effect more than a root cause but let this problem be a journey into mental and physical well-being for you. I would also encourage you to view this as a medical condition. I think many of the energy practices and semen retention mindset I practiced made things worst. The optimal time for most men is 7-21 days. Abstain longer for a time if you have to but always be searching for the root cause and treating it.

 

This is the typical abstinence that kicks in at day 2-3. Im addicted to PMO, social media, video games and when I do either of those, Day 1 is totally fine, Day 2 is inbetween and By Day 3 abstinence kicks in.

This is my personal opinion that can be incorrect: I think PMO and Sex addiction is the same thing. You get the same reward for both of them - O. The reason why you get abstinence symptoms including depression is that your subconcious mind cant tell the difference between a woman on the screen and a real one. We get aroused watching the screen because our subconsious mind thinks its happening in real life. Similarly how we get scared while watching horror movies where our mind thinks that we are in danger.

What stands in between those two addictions? Wet dreams. From a sex addict point of view, in a dream you are doing the same as in real life. My wet dreams were related to the type of P that I watched. Wet dreams with O causes me abstinence.

I think it just should be called O addiction. Any type of O is bad for you unless you are fully healed. The question is how do you know when you are healed?

 

After being over 400+ days free from PMO and after that I orgasmed. The first was regret, I wasnt producing any new life and that in on itself made me feel disapointed.
I think every man feels a touch of disappointment and "wasted potential for new life" after ejaculating outside of womans vagina - having sex not to reproduce but out recreation.

Next 7 - 14 days I felt shite - low mood, more depressed and more negative about everything along with my energy and self confidence.
Also my voice goes high - almost like I lost a great portion of testosterone and it makes me feel more weakly and low T.

After 20 - 25 days, I see my first signs of recovering in mood, energy and overall vibes. More focus and less wasting time.
And in 40+ days I feel, I am back in my game with more agression, focus, sharp mind, high energy and high self confidence.
60+ days, I am in peak state of energy and vibe again. And I just get more of those random zaps or charges of energy: Like out of the random shaking of the body and feeling some
sort of power absorbed into me. My mind is filled with creative thoughts again for my content ideas to film.

I've come to conclude that sex with an average girls (At my current situation I tend to socialise with girls in scale of 6-8, but I lose my interest fast with them, since its so easy to get sex from them), is energy draining and not worth it and I dont even want to have sex. If it would be a 9-10 girl, those who I want anyway, maybe its worth it to share my sexual energy with them.

But I am not sure, no amount of sex with the most beautiful dream girl would give me the satisfaction of my rising vitality, drive and creative potential when I am off from sex.
It is healthy for the man's body do think that sex should be more "moderated" with his dream girl, eventually coolidge effect happens and conflicts will arise.

 

Disculpa que escriba en español, no domino el inglés.
Tengo algunos años en este tema y solo puedo decirte que también tiene mucha relación la chica con la que eyacules, sin importar la racha que tengas, en definitiva hay mujeres que roban demasiada energía , fíjate con qué mujer pierdes tu racha,
Mujeres que a la primera cita te llevas a la cama no son una buena señal, tampoco madres solteras, etc.
Mujeres que traerán problema o cargadas de pecados. Te roban mucha energia.

tal vez sea ese el motivo,

a mi me pasaba, pero conocía a una chica con la que no me pasaba, solo era con ella, es un poco extraño, pero no importaba el número de días que tenía siempre me sentía enérgico y no perdía beneficios.

te dejo mi punto de vista y espero que te sirva,
Saludos!!

 

I think you become more sensitive to the effect of orgasm after a while on SR.
If you are working on your subconscious mind during abstaining, you should never feel suicidal at any time.

For me i only suffer for one or two days.
I feel lethargic and i lose control over my mood.
By the third day i am totally fine.