Well done Brexiters..... Thanks for wrecking the future!

As a stupid american, I'd like to take the time and thank you for explaining this to me.

Why would the ruling generation care about the future generation?

 

Short term pain,long term gain

 

If the big banks are all trying to bully you into staying do you perhaps think something is wrong?

As for immigrants, I understand you are taking 300K + a year - and the UK is now one of the most densely populated countries in Europe. What about the environment?

Rotheram voted 70% leave.. why do you think that is? At some point you have to take sober, honest looks at other people's views and stop name calling (racist, xenophic, stupid etc)

The EU elite and global elite are increasingly tyrannical and power grabbing - their restrictions on free speech are disturbing.

They have openly said they think the nation-state is obsolete and want to obliterate it.

 

again, how can you keep taking 300k+ people a year and maintain a quality of life? Again, they have to go somewhere which means less green space, denser housing. It is perfectly natural and healthy to not want that.

Big multinational corporations and big banks are in support of the EU because they want cheap labor (which mean lower wages for workers) and they want an end run around any restrictions on their behavior, and people like you seem oblivious to giving it to them, and you seem indifferent about the negative impact of mass muslim immigration- sex trafficking and English girls, increased violence, rape and harassment.

In the EU i can more or less be prosecuted for what I just said. How do you feel about that?

You can call me all the names you want, and think whatever you do about me- i must be stupid, ignorant, racist, etc etc. because I don't share your views... You don't seem to fathom that just because people think differently from you it is the result of some inherent character flaw.

Going back on topic, no matter what your views, I fully support your decision to come to nofap and face personal issues - at the end of the day that's what we should be focusing on.

 

Evidently, this issue is polarising opinions. I am not supporting or rejecting either side. So, looking at this debate objectively it is obvious that there is a lot of black and white; all or nothing thinking here.

Both sides can quote from the politicians that led and supported the campaign, but I doubt if many of the voters felt fully in tune with any of them. What I mean is that, there would have been many leave voters that did not agree with the views of Nigel Farage. So in a very real sense, his comments had no influence on their decision (which may have been about economics for example). The same would be true the other way around. There would have been many stay voters that did not agree with the views and comments of David Cameron, ergo, their vote was not influenced by his scare tactics.

I don't think the campaigns of either side covered themselves in glory. I think there was misinformation and an emphasis on worst case scenarios from both campaigns. But they are politicians i.e. professional liars, right? But if you compare this to a general election result. If one side narrowly beats the other, it is accepted with grace. I find it surprising that after a lengthy public debate and a democratic process, that those who lost are complaining about the 'intelligence' of the majority. It was a clear result and I feel that people (especially politicians) should put their energy into making this work.

 

Yeah it screwed up the stock market too.

 

My issue with this is that one half of the voters got to tell the other half that they must take part in secession. An issue this consequential shouldn't be decided by a simple majority. That said, the vote is not legally binding and the process takes at least two years. I suspect that during this time the powers that be will work to keep the UK in the EU. But then I don't live in Europe and I don't know the political and social dynamics over there.

 

I think it will help save the UK in the long run. I'm proud of the Brits for making this call. Lots of work to still do though.

 

Statistics says everything:
Majority of young + educated + middle class voted Remain
Majority of old + uneducated + lower class voted Leave

In two years time lot of old people will die and lot of young people will gain voting rights after 18th birthday and the scale will shift back to Remain. http://www.independent.co.uk/studen...votes-at-16-remain-brexit-leave-a7101821.html

 

@JustinX, can you provide the statistics that educated people voted Remain and that uneducated voted Leave?

Are you seriously suggesting the people who voted were 'tested' to see how educated they were! You must be mad!

 

Though this is from before the vote, this gives a better picture than young/old, more educated/less educated

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/15512/divEU3.png

 

@AlienOverlord, thanks a lot for this information. I know you are not claiming these figures as statistics, but I want to make this point because it could be easy to read down these lists and forget that this was a poll. In fact, YouGov got their forecast wrong as they predicted a win by 'Remain' voters. Also, to split people who are 'educated' - because they have an A level or more - or 'uneducated' - because they don't - is an incredibly crude determination in my honest opinion.

I often wonder how polling organizations select people for their information, as I have never been approached and asked for my view of anything, lol.

 

Are you seriously asking this question? You must be mad!

I can see you have no Idea how polling works. Polling is another statistical method to know opinion of population in that particular time (AlienOverlord's poll was from March, Referendum in June). Polls always have margin of error and confidence interval (usually 95%), meaning that with confidence of 95% people will do...and as a result real numbers can go +-5%. Therefore if you have very close outcome 50/50 or 48/52 you cannot say ''YouGov got their forecast wrong as they predicted a win'' because they predict it with 95% confidence interval. However poll are very valuable to see the trends and population characteristics because if something is 70/30 or 60/40 it is not likely to change other way.

Here are numbers for Poll and Referendum, I am adding also geographical locations so you can understand what margin of error and confidence interval is. Hope you understand what word majority means.
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London.............|| 58% Remain ... 42% Leave || 60% Remain ... 40% Leave
Scotland...........|| 63% Remain ... 37% Leave || 62% Remain ... 38% Leave
Wales...............|| 55% Remain ... 45% Leave || 48% Remain ... 52% Leave
N. Ireland.........|| 65% Remain ... 35% Leave || 56% Remain ... 44% Leave
60+ age...........|| 33% Remain ... 67% Leave || N/A
18-24 age.........|| 75% Remain ... 25% Leave || N/A
With uni degree.|| 70% Remain ... 30% Leave || definitely fuckin majority Remain and that is exactly what I said
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And here you can see official maps so you can compare it yourself.