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Does noFap help with Premature ejaculation (PE)?

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by Yang1980, May 4, 2017.

  1. Yang1980

    Yang1980 Fapstronaut

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    hi there!
    I am 37 yo, porn, masturbation and sex addict. During the last 3-4 years my problems with PE have been getting worse, to the point that I last not even 10 secs. Anybody else experienced this? Can abstinence from PMO help solve this problem?
     
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  2. ILoathePorn

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    It does. As you go through your reboot and your brain starts to rewire itself, your body and mind will slowly get back to normal. It can be a difficult, long journey but one well worth it. Be patient and take one day at a time. I recommend starting a journal in the appropriate section. Create a set of rules for your reboot, a set of goals and a plan of action for when you become triggered. Identify your triggers, then when you are starting to feel triggered you can enact your plan of action immediately without thinking, saving your precious seconds. I hope this helps. Stay strong!
     
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  3. I was asked this question recently, but I was not sure if PE is a consequence of too much porn and/or masturbation. I was, therefore, uncertain if it would help. Could you explain your certainty about this in some detail please? Cheers. :cool:
     
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  4. ILoathePorn

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    Wrong choice of words I guess. I try not to make assumptions like that. I can't say for certain, so good call Guy. I should have said, I would hope so due to that it helps so many other personal issues. Good catch Igy.
     
  5. Ah, OK. Thanks.
     
  6. Yang1980

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    Thanks for the encouragement guys!
    I am sure abstinence from PMO can help with many issues as I can read from a lot of stories. I am hopeful it will help also with PE. Sure I'll write a diary and share my personal experiences. Take care
     
  7. Uruvug

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    I am also on this boat. I've consistently had PE problems. Usually can last around 2 or 3 minutes more or less, but that's usually not enough time for the girls to have an orgasm so I have to use my fingers and tongue to make the girl reach the point, but I feel like it's not the same thing. My guess is that PE might be caused by conditioning your penis to masturbation, which is usually done quickly, but I don't know if this is truly the case.

    I am in my late 20s and I have used some invigorating pills like Vi@gra and other similar ones and I find that I have been able to last super long, and also be ready for sex after only a few minutes of orgasm. This is all great, but the headaches I get right after, or during sex are extremely painful. Also, I've noticed that when I first started taking the pills, the effects were much better, then I started to have issues even with the pills, like one time I had DE to the point that it was uncomfortable for the girl and I. I would love to be able to have sex for a decent amount of time without having to depend on those pills.
     
  8. Yang1980

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    Hi!
    Thanks for your reply. I personally don't use any pills, because I don't want to be dependent on a medication, and there are side effects as you mentioned in your post. Also I think that meds are just a temporary fix when problems are unmanageable, but they don't provide a long lasting solution or a real change.
    I think that the issue is that I always looked for short term sex reward either through masturbation or sex: prostitution, casual sex, hookups, rather than enjoying sex as a part of /within a healthy relationship.
    So I think my mind and body are trained to 'get the job done' as soon as possible to get a dopamine boost..
    What I hope is that changing attitude toward sex and masturbation will also change the body response.
    I hope that it is a process of training again the body and the mind to choose a long and more satisfying interaction, rather than letting go energy all at once.
     
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  9. Yang1980

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    Good luck for a complete healing!
     
  10. slitebg

    slitebg Fapstronaut

    Hi all, same age as above poster, same problem. I don't actually have a girlfriend right now but sex with my last one was a nightmare. She said she didn't care how long I lasted and I believe her but still it just cannot be good or fun for both partners if the man finishes in less than a minute or 2-3 minutes tops. I didn't even think of NoFap then. After we broke up I realized I had problems with PMO and PE and I made the connection. I also believe it's logical and highly probable we train ourselves to ejaculate fast and the body recreates the pattern any time anything sexual is going on with our bodies. However I believe it's not so much the penis that is conditioned, but rather the brain, the actual urge to ejaculate quickly is encoded so deep that after a few strokes with the hand or inside the woman and you're there, no control whatsoever.

    Now I've been reading up on this issue and possible solutions if one day I have to perform again. I don't even want to go for hours or something unrealistic I just want to be able to have some control and go back to normal, let's say ~10 mins of good, old-fashioned sex.

    So what I found through internet research mainly is there are only a couple of options that realistically can help:

    1) Edging /without P of course/ - it seems like a logical way to increase the time before the body and mind decide it's time to 'fire a load' by rewiring ourselves to last longer before cumming. It also teaches us to focus on the physical sensation and arousal levels without the mental element involved. Since masturbation is a no-no for most of us rebooting, this in not a preferred method.
    2) Desynthesizing sprays/gels - no experience here, would love some feedback (are they safe?).
    3) 'Cock rings' - I read they may help during intercourse by limiting blood flow and keeping erections up. Any feedback is welcome, too.
    4) Medication - may be useful in extreme cases and with marriage pressure involved, but not recommended as above posters have shared, they come at a price - side effects are nasty and one becomes reliant on them to perform.
    5) Kegels - normal and reverse ones - some say the Mecca of sexual stamina for guys. Probably overrated like most stuff on this topic but all sources are clear they help a lot with control. Anyone who has success (or failure, hope not) should also share info and hopefully provide a routine or other advice.

    Maybe a combination of all above in some degree or other is the solution, but only reading about this stuff theoretically is just not enough. I already started kegels and if the need arises, I would probably get some spray/cream and possibly a cock ring. I would love some feedback on any of these options, though.

    Thank you and good luck to you all, never lose faith things could be better!
     
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  11. Uruvug

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    Hi, yeah I would love to find a solution to this problem. I have also heard about the edging exercises and some people swear by it, however I've heard some mixed comments about edging, some people in this forum advice against it saying that it gets the brain used to high doses of dopamine which might cause ED in the long run... I don't know really if it would help or be bad. I have tried edging in the past to a small degree, but I did it during a period of time when I was also masturbating to a lot of porn so that might have affected the results. I have also experienced ED but I can't say if it was due to too much porn or to the edging... Now, I have reached more than a month without porn (and hopefully never return to it) and I feel my libido coming back strong, getting hard erections often, so I might try edging again, say - once a week, without any porn, and see if it gives me any results now. I think masturbating is not bad really, only when you do it to porn or if you do it in ways that are different from realistic sex. For example, if you masturbate, make sure you do it at a rhythm that is sexually realistic, using a soft grip with your hand and also using lubricant. If you do it that way, the sensation should be fairly similar to what you would feel in real sex. Of course sex would be better, but if you are not sexually active, then masturbate once you have finished your rebooting process, but try to limit masturbation to once a week or so. You'll know you have finished the rebooting when you notice that you get hard erections often throughout the day.
     
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  12. kilowatt

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    I'm curious how many days does it take to heal from this kind of problem?
     
  13. Tommy_0113

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    But this is completely the wrong thing to say too. That PMO can help one thing doesn't mean it will help another thing. That's just an unfounded internet-thread theory, nothing more, nothing less.

    In my example, at the end of a 75 day no PMO streak I held my hard penis for a few seconds and I came. All that build up and abstinence. Must have made my body itch to release.
     
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  14. Uruvug

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    That sounds intense... Yeah I guess after so many days too much sperm was produced by your testicles and it needed to be released somehow. That's also why some people have wet dreams. Honestly I don't think that the no PMO thing would help PE... But I could be wrong
     
  15. slitebg

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    I believe it can help by rewiring our brains when to (and not to) ejaculate. Now of course after 3 months of no release and no touching there will be extra sensitivity. However, as I see it, the main goal of a reboot is exactly that - to reboot our bodies and minds so we can return to 'normal'. So yeah, during the reboot, no PMO wouldn't help PE. After the reboot, if one returns to 'normal' patterns of masturbating / having sex, I believe with a caring, loving and patient partner PE can really be beaten. It wouldn't be easy and it may take a combination of techniques, especially edging - until body and mind become used to holding erection long time without cumming and managing arousal levels - but like we all should believe here, nothing is impossible and it is certainly doable. There are loads of free tips and techniques available online toward this purpose. The feedback is inspiring, too - some guys /who have no gain from lying/ say they lasted 30 sec to a minute, now last like 20-30 mins at least only trough proper exercise and mental training. The deeper the problem, the harder the road to solving it. That shouldn't discourage us, though. Little by little we will get there. Let's not forget also life isn't just about sex and lasting in bed. Even though we all know how this can affect our masculine self-esteem. Nothing is unsolvable when we put our energy and will into it.

    So in a nutshell - does NoFap help with PE? During reboot most probably not, after reboot a good chance that it does help the big picture.
     
  16. Uruvug

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    Those are encouraging words. Thanks for that. I hope I can get this problem fixed at some point and not depend on pills to last longer.
     
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  17. QCA

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    Premature ejaculation...may seem like a problem now but you have to consider when our ancestors were banging out on the plains of the serenghetti if you lasted to long you could be eaten by a lion. Efficiency in reproduction is a feature not a bug.

    Note I know nothing about biology and this is probably bullshit.
     
  18. m.coming.back

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    Masturbation is not a complete sexual process, so it may caused -prostate congension- which apear in PE, stoping PMO for a long time cant cure PE complitly.
     
  19. Uruvug

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    Haha, yeah what you said is perfectly accurate with the way biology works and what's currently accepted in terms of human evolution. That is why I believe that PE is not really a problem caused by porn and masturbation necessarily. Now, even though it might have been an advantage back when our ancestors lived surrounded by hungry animals that ate them, now the situation has changed and I would like to last longer than what I currently do.
     
  20. QCA

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    This survival mechanism applies to sex when young children are in your home as well. Premature ejaculation...not just keeping you safe from elephant stampedes.
     

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