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Worst case of HOCD ever... or something else?

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by TrappedInTorment, Aug 28, 2017.

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  1. TrappedInTorment

    TrappedInTorment Fapstronaut

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    Hello

    I’m seeking help with deep issues around masturbation and erotic fixation. Be warned, I think I am rather a radical case here. First of all, some details: I am a 21 year old male, virgin, last girlfriend was when I was 14. Had maybe 5 total, none of them too serious. I was really knocked back by a girl I crushed on rejecting me. I started masturbating at around age 13, and until I was about 17 this was a normal amount (once or twice a week when I could get some privacy). After 17 I found access to a lot more privacy, and secluded myself more for various reasons unrelated to this. Masturbation went into overdrive. From then until now masturbation became a daily thing, ranging between zero when I was too busy, to three on a particularly lazy day, but the average is 1 or 2. Over time, I also edged out these sessions to the point where I can and often do masturbate for 2 hours straight.

    From the very start, my masturbatory habits, fantasies and preferred pornography all centered on common themes, humiliation chief among them. I was fascinated by the loss of dignity. For about a year, I had a fixation with women as pets, and also had thoughts about femdom (BDSM play). At age 17, right when masturbation kicked into overdrive, I discovered furries. That is when things went extremely downhill. I became obsessed with gay furry porn drawings, and at 18 I began to masturbate to human gay fantasies, once again drawing on humiliation (puppy play and forced public sex). It seemed like I was always looking for the next most humiliating thing, and for some reason the idea of being gay completely pushed my shame buttons perfectly. Quick note: I was never interested in regular gay porn at all really, only gay stuff that related to my fetishes. I also got into anonymous chatting with gay men online, begging them to degrade me verbally, to tease me about being gay, to roleplay putting me in extremely gay scenarios.

    Today, I struggle to get hard to straight porn or pics of naked girls, or I can get hard but cannot achieve that kind of ‘pulse’ which is necessary to reach climax. Sometimes it is possible, but most of the time when I’m trying it, I have to mix and match gay and straight thoughts. If I’m really horned up, a purely straight thought will push me over the edge, but it is far from good. With a gay thought, I can cum no problem.

    Here is another major detail. I have never experienced any attraction to any men in my life. Not friends, not co-workers, nothing. I never meet a guy and find him attractive or imagine myself performing a sex act on him, despite having met both handsome and openly gay men. All of my masturbatory fantasies basically revolve around men that I imagine, and they are typically non-descript, in other words the men are not so much important as the fact that I’m doing gay stuff. Meanwhile, when it comes to girls, while I don’t generally find much natural emotional attraction, I have done in two separate but recent cases. One girl I constantly imagined what it would be like to be her boyfriend, but I missed the chance to ask her out. She was so perfect. Another was a more casual encounter a few weeks ago where the girl was very clearly interested in me, but I did not realize until afterwards, and agonized over the missed opportunity because she had been pretty. Would a gay man be so tortured over missing a chance with a girl? To be totally truthful, I have anxiety about whether or not I will be able to get hard for a girl during sex, so maybe that factors into it. Oh, another point: because I am so into humiliation, you’d think my fantasies would involve perhaps members of my family, or close friends watching… nope. That’s never entered into my mind, and I am kind of repulsed by the idea. It’s always just with nondescript ‘observers’. Not sure if this has significance.

    So I need some help here. I’ve heard about NoFap and that some guys have used it to combat psychological changes they have caused through chronic masturbation. Does any of this sound self-inflicted due to my porn indulgence? Am I gay? Am I bi? Is it HOCD? Can I salvage anything? I’ve tried going to an alternating routine of gay indulgence one day, forced straight stuff the next, but don’t feel its working. I’ve also tried hypnosis files with little success. What the hell is going on with me and what can I do to fix it? NoFap, or some other method?

    Thanks
     
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  2. Beng part of the furry fandom can be very compelling. But overall, your various dilemmas sound like HOCD. This is porn-induced. So doing NoFap is definitely what will help you remove these fetishes and preferences that are not really "you".
     
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  3. etsme

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    I reckon the issue you should be exploring is the root cause of shame and humiliation, the homo stuff is secondary.
    I had similar issues, I was into femdom porn but I'm 100% gay. it was the humiliation and shame that turned me on.

    I eventually figured out that I didnt know how to process deep seated issues of shame and so used sexuality to feel better and process shame.

    Once I figured this out femdom porn lost its tight grip.

    step 1: love yourself and be kind. no matter what.
     
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  4. STRAIGHT GUY

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    me too I got Psychological changes because of pornography. I am 26 now and I started watching P from age of 13. and I realized the changed in my sexual desires from age of 16, but I still do not know if it is HOCD, or homosexuality, but I know that I am not gay. fuck pornography, it destroys lives.
     
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  5. TrappedInTorment

    TrappedInTorment Fapstronaut

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    I've been 'sober' for almost a week now. I got six days the other week but had a horrible relapse :(
     
  6. jest

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    OP, I have good news for you.

    I underwent a 100+ days reboot mainly in order to cure my HOCD, I noticed a few changes here and there but nothing major and damn I was having a bit of an anxiety spike, I even started to think I didn't have hocd (which is another hocd symptom in a way, ocd in general is indeed a nightmare)...

    So I looked up some HOCD information earlier today and I read an article about CBT and exposure and all that (which I already knew of) but when I tried these techniques at home a few months ago they backfired.

    However...

    I decided to expose myself to certain anxiety triggering content today and as I observed my reactions:

    Anxiety was reduced drastically in comparison to how it felt prior to the reboot;

    Barely any bodily reactions (if any at all).

    So this seemingly "triggering" content is now barely triggering and I'm certain that if I hadn't been exposed to a decent amount of psubs during my reboot, I'd be fully healed by now.

    Does rebooting help? Definitely, go for as long as you can last without PMO and these ridiculous thoughts and fetishes will go away.
     
  7. Sir Cranksalot

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    It's very true that P eventually can give people some strange desires, which they wouldn't have found enticing earlier. I'm still looking for good answers on ridding oneself of unwanted kinks. My best ideas on this is that removal of exposure to it (like, no more of that stuff) will eventually make the neural connections fade out.
     
  8. I don't think you're gay. You're bowing textbook escalation. I think (and I am not a therapist or Doctor) that when that girl dumped you (unless some other shameful event happens before/after) it created trauma that you never quite dealt with. That causes stress, anxiety, etc. you started self medicating with PMO and b/c of the trauma you turned to shaming/degrading porn. The gay stuff is natural escalation b/c women and curries didn't do it anymore. Porn addiction requires us to keeping a ping up he novelty/intensity so our brains can get that dopamine. Another characteristic of sex addictions is that our fantasies/preferences/fetishzed may revolve around a traumatic event. You felt feelings of shame and degradation when Girl1 dumped you and you keep re-enacting those feelings via porn. So much so you have conditioned yourself to only get off by images of men shaking and degrading other men. You are not gay. You're a product of porn addiction.

    Good news is that you're not lost. Get on a serious Hard Mode Reboot. Hands off the salami. No porn. Get your devices as clean as possible. Stay away from triggers. Read up in the forums. Develop a strategy for coping with urges and triggers.

    Do not let porn win.
     
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  10. MarinoBigFan1984

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    I have watched some sex porn and I am not gay. Mostly medical and prison related.
     
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  12. Machomachine

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    Funny enough, I stopped obsessing over being aroused to shit I shouldn't be by not fearing the arousal.
    I wad looking at it the wrong way..by avoiding something you are only empowering this concept..I intentionally thought of something sexual that didn't match my orientation..I got aroused but then it quickly went away.

    The trick is to remember that sexual thoughts regardless of what its about is sexual, and there for therefore arousing.
     

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