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Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Spikey Cloud, Aug 28, 2017.

  1. Spikey Cloud

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    You're welcome I enjoy it too.
     
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    Hi Spikey,

    I was comatose for over eight hours from those sleeping tablets. I took them at 1.00 and woke up at 9.30. They are a bad thing, and I've got to stop taking them. They do have one useful effect: they stop me waking up with a boner hahaaaa. Honestly, they do !

    I've just re-read your messages from yesterday, and I noticed that I didn't answer your question, "Why do you think you're a bore ?", and I didn't comment on some of the things you said about the self. I will do later.

    I've got to go out now. One of the things I have to do is visit my lawyer (yaaaaaaaaaaawn) - nothing criminal, just something to do with a relative's will. It involves a cunt of a lawyer trying to screw me out of an inheritance an uncle left me three years ago. I'll tell you about it later.
     
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    I'm glad you enjoy our messaging, because your messages have given me a lot of pleasure. I've never mentioned my amph-wank-mania to anyone else before, and it's great to be able to discuss it with you. I don't need to go to heaven, because I've been there already.

    What you said about society, other people, and authority is something I've often thought about. Yes, I agree with you, the ego is only a part of us. As you say, the self is more than ego. Ego doesn't explain why you're Spikey Cloud, with your unique being, and I'm Steve with mine. Ego is too fucking concrete and earthbound ! It's just the armour we wear to cope with other EGOS. Where was your ego when you were completely absorbed in those perfect pearly eyes you told me about ?

    I'll tell you about the legal thing and being such a fucking bore in my next post, mate. In the meantime, please message me, if only to tell me you're still alive.
     
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    I suspect that the real self cannot be put into words because every thought or perception you can have on it is not the real self - it is just a perception of the self trough a thought form. Whether we were the real self during those heavenly experiences I dunno - I can only hope so. I still experienced that I was kind of peeling the hunderts layers of my ego (and there were many) until everything was how I wanted it to be – I could not believe what I experienced because I would never though it possible to experience it that way – yet it was still me and that goes beyond the self this reality and maybe even what reality is.

    Some people believe that everything what can happen does happen in this universe, maybe not in this dimension but in others it might be. Some even believe there is only 1 self and that we are all experiencing our invidual parts.
     
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    And I know how much you love cuddles, Spikey.
     
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    As much I like the compliment - I'm not really interested doing that lol.

    Do you think there is a real self btw? I mean there is something that makes the decisions and has preferences right?
     
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    I told you porn had fucked me up. That pathetic and embarassing message I sent you last night is a symptom of my loneliness and desire to be closer to people. I had this urge to say something sweet to you, so I did, and you were kind enough not to go apeshit over it. Thanks.
    As I've told you, I'm not queer, just isolated and sex-starved.
     
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    You don't have amphs right now right?
     
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    No, that must have been my sleeping tablets. They're hypnotics, and if I take too much I don't know what I"m doing. I must have been fapping without knowing it. Sorry Spike, mate. I really do hope I haven't pissed you off.
     
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    I think those sleepers must blow my ego away. I wonder which part of me that insane message came from ?
     
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    You should be easy on those are they benzo's?
     
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    I think they are benzos. They're VERY nice. Too nice for my own good really. I get them legally from my doctor, but she doesn't know I abuse them, as I certainly do, and have been doing for about six months. You've probably realised by now that I'm pretty messed up - not mad, but messed up. Thank God I'm not addicted to booze too ! That would be the fucking limit !! These are my current addictions:

    Wanking
    Pornography
    Sleeping Tablets
    Cigarettes
    Electronic Gadgets

    The reason why I think I'm a bore to other people is because I have so little in common with most of them I meet, and struggle to find things to talk about. After about five minutes in my company, most people are anxious to be on there way. On the rare occasions when I meet people who share my interests, I get very excited and rather clingy. A lot of conversations these days revolve around the television, and the crap that it pumps out. I don't have a television because I don't want to be bombarded with bullshit every day of my life. Also, I don't give a shit about the news, politicians, "celebrities", sport, the royal family etc. Who knows, perhaps I'm a sociopath ! hahahaaaa

    How are you feeling on your 15th day ?Any progress with the shaft sensitivity ?
    Also, are you eating enough ?

    Steve ..
     
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    Hi Spikey ....

    You must get hold of this book, because it's about a subject that I know you're deeply interested in.

    THE FALL: The Insanity of the Ego in Human History and the Dawning of a New Age by Steve Taylor

    For all I know, you may have read it already, but if you haven't I think you'll love it. This is what Eckhart Tolle says about it: "An important and fascinating book about the origin, history, and impending demise of the ego, highly readable and enlightening."

    I read it about a year ago, and was astonished by it. I can't go into the details of it now, because I'd be here all night, but I can tell you that Eckhart Tolle's telling the truth when he says it's highly readable.

    Steve ..
     
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    I would highly recommend stop abusing benzo's they are even worse to be addicted to than amphs. I avoid TV as the peague too because I think there is a lot of negative programming on it. The only thing I’m interested in, in the news is the conflict in Nord Korea.


    I have not seen much benefits yet. I don’t know if my shaft is more sensitive – I cannot test that. The thoughts of it not being so sensitive are still coming automatically when I think me doing sexual things. Also my libido is still low – I’m thinking that I might need to fap (fleshlight) more instead of less to get my libido back. The same as getting more sex will make you want it more.

    I never fapped or watched a lot of porn to begin with so NoFap might not give me much benefits and some people claim that fapping with a fleshlight can get sensitivity back as well, as the penis get’s used to the subtle feelings of a vagina. Another benefit of this route is that I can increase my stanima. So yeah I think I might try a few weeks NoFap and if it still not better then I probably quit.
     
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    Although, as I said, I usually ignore the news, I am, like you, interested in the North Korean story. The combination of Kim and Trump is, I think, potentially deadly - two egomaniacs on a collision course.

    I don't know much about psychology, but I DO think that the self exists apart from the ego. The ego is domineering and cruel. The self, which I think Freud called the superego (don't assume that I've got that right) is the part of our pyche to do with moral choices, sense of worth, shame and so on. Having said this, I can't help but wonder whether the 'self' you're talking about, Spikey, is something far, far deeper and mysterious than Freud's theory suggests.
     
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    I don't know if this will interest you, because you're not a porn addict. You mentioned that your libido is still low. Well, I used to experience that a lot when I gave up the amph, but I was so addicted to PMO that I used to force myself into horniness just to get another hit. That's how addictive PMO is ! In one way, it's not primarily about libido. It's a behavioural problem, like compulsive gambling or flashing your dick at strangers. There's a hit available, and the brain just goes for it, even if it's not a first class hit.
     
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    Yes I know - but I think that because of this problem I want taking substances. It began with weed and stuff you get from the smartshop in hope to get hornier from it. Like maca, horny weed goat and such. Did not work. Then I discovered 4-FA, 3-Fa and such and they gave me the horn I was longing for so long. Then I realized that I felt terrible after. But I enjoyed so much that even feeling days terrible was worth for me. After that it got worse and worse and I needed to stop.

    A lot of people think that my libido problems are mental. I always liked younger woman - and when I was younger the age gaps were a bit more unacceptable than they now are. In the past I littarly tried to block that attraction in order to avoid the pain of not ever getting them. I think that this pattern is now blocking my libido. Every time I see a woman I always check how attractive she is and then I’m automatically finding ways why she isn’t cannot stop doing it.

    Even though I know woman find me attractive as soon as they come close I automatically push them away or ignore them. Need to break that pattern for sure.

    Yeah Trump and Kim are big stupid ego’s they should read the power now imho :p they are fighting for an mental illusion on the back of million innocent people.
     
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    Yes, and when you find the substance that makes you REALLY horny, the paradox is that you're SO horny that the only way to relieve it is with yourself, unless, of course, she's on it too, but then you fuck yourselves into such painful cock/pussy soreness that you can't fuck any more, but still feel horny afterwards The problem with amph is that it creates so much lust that there's no orgasm that can quell it, except for a couple of minutes. But even so, and as you say, it's SO pleasurable, so addictive that the painful days that follow it are not enough of a deterrent to stop you going back to it. This is why I had such an ENORMOUS battle on my hands when I decided to stop it. I think I'm over it now, but I can't be sure.

    Don't beat yourself to a pulp for desiring younger women ! I've met very few men who don't ! You have NOTHING to feel ashamed of !
     
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    Thank you - yeah I know that now. But in the past I did not. Maybe I did but I made my psyche not to find them attractive anymore which I did pretty well lol. But now it is so strong that I cannot change it anymore at least not in the short term.


    And yeah amps are so godly. The tickly sensations you get down there and the horn are incredible. 3-FA is especially insane in this department. It does increase your dopamine levels with a insane 1600% of baseline dopamine levels the first hour and then goes down to 800% the rest of the trip. This is 6 times as much as porn, 4 times as much as cocaine and twice as much as meth-amphetamine. The first time I used this just getting an erection almost felt an constant orgasm – it was as hard as steel – it was mind-blowing how good it felt and that is only the feeling of getting hard. Normally I don’t make any sounds but then I did!! XD

    I had to slow down because the pleasure as too intense. Even though I still have legit 3-FA I never get that pleasure anymore. Mind you 3-FA is very hard to almost impossible to get. If you find it online it is 100% fake :p I will never forget that experience. I hope I might get such experience once again in the future.

    Nowadays I can barely feel when I’m hard :(
     
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