Porn is the problem

Yeah man I also relapsed on day 7 without porn or fantasies don't feel bad , its normal but don't let it happen again

 

The problem is pleasuring yourself. Quick easy reward with no effort. That's what messes you up. That includes porn as well as masturbation.

 

I agree that porn is the biggest part of this. IMO some MO is healthy, as long as it isn't done too often. Moderation is a big part in a lot of things in life.

OTOH, it also depends on where you are in your journey and only you can know that for yourself. Try it and see how it goes for you. You can always change your approach later if it doesn't work as you thought it would. I'm being successful with no PMO for now, but I will relax that once I feel it's time to do it. Best of luck with it!

 

"some MO is healthy," no it isn't. It's an excuse to do it.

 

You're gong to have to give me a bit more information on your statement so I can understand what you mean.

 

I do think Porn really is the biggest problem.

Also I feel targeting one at a time can help much more to beat this

I tried for years to beat PMO.

But now only focusing on beating P i am already on day 11 and feel i can keep on going

Beating MO can come later

 

If that's what you think will work for yourself fine, and M is a sin and sex outside marriage is a sin (that's not what i think is true, that's what is written in the bible and is true) so I won't do it. Good luck and GJ for 11day without P!

 

Porn is definitely the problem, but think about this: How often are you realistically going to MO without porn?

I spent most of my teenage years without access to porn. My MO frequency at the time was pretty low compared to most teenagers today. A couple of times a week and I was done, and never more than once in a day. My MO only reached problematic levels when I was able to gain access to porn and continually "reload" so to speak.

Cut out the porn, the the MO will naturally decline on it's own.

 

Umm, no it won't?

 

I think P is a nasty piece of work, and some of the content out there is despicable, but to me, P is just a tool for M. Sure, you can M without P, but for me, it gets more difficult without P.

 

Just speaking from experience. Remove the artificial stimulation and the desire of M (or even sex) declines.

 

Speaking from experience, yes -- quiting porn improved libido, attraction, and other symptoms when I was in a relationship. Please don't doubt other's experiences because of your beliefs.

 

Porn, is part of the problem. It's just a tool. One which can be used and thrown out, but remember it's only up to you how to use it.

It does take a few brain training to get back on course. You got this.

 

P is 10 times of not more worse than M I agree with you there. However, you still shouldn't do either.