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Non Consensual Porn etc. Trigger warning

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Birthoftension, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. My impression is that most people here is into porn that degrades man. What about those who have been, or still are, into porn where women are "manhandled"? Are there some guys here that tried to discover why they have been, or still are, into this kind of porn?
    reluctant swallowing, painal, gagging etc pp.
    Was its something you escalated into, or anyway allready there, before you became porn addicted? Why do you think you like it? Better to say: you NEED it? Whats behind the sensation of degradation of women?
    Did you try to live it? To practice sex like this?
     
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  2. Eviledging

    Eviledging Fapstronaut

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    Because the term “to be a man” is an ever changing PC nightmare
     
  3. Plutonium

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    I got into watching some BDSM - and even began to appreciate the BDSM lifestyle - but it was never about non-consensual stuff. BDSM is constructed upon the foundations of consent.

    I remember listening to Milo Yiannopolous explaining how it is the submissive that really controls the BDSM experience as the limits of what are acceptable are framed by the sub.

    Interestingly, now I have been going through NoFap - I find I have zero interest in any of it.

    What you are describing is something entirely different. Genuine non-consensual porn has another name - rape. And although some women are said to have so called rape fantasies - it is just a fantasy, and I imgaine they would only want to be "raped" by someone they liked and trusted, not some random stranger, and then only within their own acceptable boundaries as the sub.

    If you find yourself getting interested in genuine non-consensual porn please seek urgent professional help.
     
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  4. noonoon

    noonoon Fapstronaut

    It's the downward progression of porn. It gets into ever worsening debauchery, until we are merely primal beasts. PMO strips us of our humanity and turns us into animals. The animal takes what it wants. It is the evolved human, on the other hand, that can practice compassion, love and understanding. That controls the urges rather than has the urges control him.

    Get off PMO and the perversion will go away with time.
     
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  5. For me such kind of Sex was allready a topic far before i did watch my first porn. What noonoon calls the animalistic side isnt something that showed up after going through a brutalization process by porn. Its been allways there. The ability to love, to have compassion and to accept limits too. I dont think there is necessarly a contradiction between liking such things and still remaining human. Cause no, degrading sex isnt necessarly rape. Only if it is really non-consensual. But we do know for sure that non-consensual porn is fake....
    @Petroleum: thats why i would agree that the submissive part actually is in charge. Its his limits that count. Only when one doesnt care about those limits (safe words) the dominant part dominates in a very strict sense of the word.
    @Eviledging: i agree. There is a tendency to deny a feature of male sexuality that is pretty contraproductive. The part that lets us say "the man takes her" (not the woman takes the man) etc pp. It is indeed supported by the ideology of PC that doesnt allow people to talk about that part of sexuality in other terms then denial, and accusation.
     
  6. AtomicTango

    AtomicTango Fapstronaut

    This is definitely true, most people here were/are struggling with an addiction to porn that either degrades their partner like you said, or degrades themselves in the form of sissy porn, extreme femdom, etc. A lot of the time I dont think its what we are genuinely into, or if we are its not a big a deal as porn makes it, but it emerges as a form of over-compensation because we dont have that genuine love and intimacy we truly crave, so we turn to blatant hedonism to try and fill the void and compensate. As a guy who was once super into all kinds of ridiculous shit, I no longer have anywhere near as much of an interest in it, and in the case of the most extreme stuff, it no longer entices me at all.
     
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  7. Border_

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    Regardless of the involvement of PMO or not, degrading sex is still disordered. It is the exact opposite of growing in compassion and love. Sex is supposed to be a loving expression of genuine intimacy, for unity and/or procreation. Seeking sex primarily for the biological pleasure is starts us on the slippery slope to begin with.

    The definition of degrading is: to treat or regard someone with contempt or disrespect. To live a truly good and fulfilling life we need to do the opposite; which is to recognize that every human has value and dignity, and to align our actions with that reality regardless if they tell us they want to be degraded for their own pleasure. P stars tell us they like doing P, but that doesn't make it a healthy or acceptable thing. PMO is just one facet of the lifelong struggle we will have to follow our primal urges vs. using our higher reason to create peaceful relationships and societies.
     
  8. MarinoBigFan1984

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    My porn genres all are/were about power.
    I like spanking, medical, and prison porn. I especially enjoy watching women undergoing cavity searches. Their inability to prevent someone from violating their own body orifices has always been a turn on for me.
     
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  9. sparkywantsnoPMO

    sparkywantsnoPMO NoFap Moderator & Yeoman

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    This was my problem as well. I do think it was something that I escalated into. I was attracted to the vulnerability. It really fed my addiction. Generally I didn't live it.
     
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  10. MarinoBigFan1984

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    That’s why I had to stop. I was becoming repulsed at myself. That’s why I felt the need for penance in addition to NoFap. Penance in my case meaning mostly extra prayer.
     
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  11. Derek5150

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    I've always enjoyed watching women get dominated because I've always been that type of guy when it came to the bedroom scene. However, I'm more into rough passionate sex, like looking deep into a woman's eyes while pound away, etc..
     
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  12. Eviledging

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    I think a little BDSM is not alarming in a relationship but to be clear a lot of us including me aren’t concerned about the 59 shades of gray domination but rather the max hardcore abuse degradation towards females that we sometimes think about
     
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  13. MerseyPhoenix

    MerseyPhoenix Fapstronaut

    What is behind this is power. Most men on here have power issues. Like me, they feel impotent in the face of endless "successful" couples or single women and therefore take it out on someone. That's where you get your classic R fantasies from - a desire to dominate and overcome another because you yourself feel dominated and overpowered. Also, older men, like myself, find it difficult to accept that we are repulsive to younger women and that's why you get the genre of P called Old and Young.
    I never tried to live this. My world was purely online fantasy.
     
  14. MerseyPhoenix

    MerseyPhoenix Fapstronaut

    How do you get that counter on your signature box?
     
  15. MarinoBigFan1984

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    I’m not sure when I first started enjoying the non consensual stuff (I was pretty young) I got the power connection but now yes it’s all about the power.
     
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