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Bad texter/messenger

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by Lustorlove, Nov 1, 2017.

  1. Lustorlove

    Lustorlove Fapstronaut

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    does anyone else struggle texting/messaging girls through apps such as tinder? When I text a girl I find my self saying some corny ass shit when I’m just trying to get a laugh out of her. This usually leads to her not hitting me back. Any advice when texting? I read through a few articles that say to keep it light and role play if you know how and tease her/yourself but I’m just not good at flirting I guess.
     
  2. How about you stop saying corny ass shit?
     
  3. Get off the phone and talk to girls in person
     
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  4. Gewinner98

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    Theonly advice that can be possibly given imo:
    Stop texting and go get real girls, messaging is a pure waste of time
     
  5. This isn’t the only real advice that can be given. It’s 2017 and there are real girls using these apps in order to communicate with real guys. This is part of the technological world we live in, so wake up! Face to face isn’t the only way to communicate with a real person. When you text, you are texting a real person. Same for when you call!

    Furthermore these apps also increase your chances to meet someone. This wasn’t the case before their existence, when you only met people in the places you frequented, so saying they’re a waste of time is also incorrect if you know how to properly and effectively utilize them.
     
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  6. Hitto

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    Here's my advice texting girls back and forth that you don't know is a waste of time just get to the point and ask them out and leave all the flirting to be done in person so can actually see how they are reacting to it texting leads to eithe swapping nudes or she is just bored and needs to kill time also texting and telling them everything about yourself kills the mystery and then they lose interest
     
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  7. Gewinner98

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    You might not understand my point, bro. It s sure the 21th century now and there are a lot of girls out there on tinder, who would like to find a partner. But the thing is if you re an average guy, without 1000 followers on instagram, you will have to spend much more time looking for the girl you need. See, if you talk to girl in real(approaching on the street, in the bar, night club, etc). You can see how she looks like, you are able to get the idea what person she is. While texting, is not always possible.
    So even if you ve found a good looking girl on tinder and you ve arranged a meeting. You can either find that she s not as attractive as on her pictures online or that you don t really know what to talk about with her. So you should be really lucky to find both attractive girl and the one with who you have something in common. It s of course possible, but you need to have like 10-20 dates(you might succeed on the first one, but you should be really lucky) before you find one. Is nt it easier to just go to a bar(for example) with your friends and have conversations with some girls face to face, so there is no risk and you get social experience, become more confident. By tapping your phone screen, you get no experience. And if you get used to it, you might then be having hard times talking to new girls in real
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  8. Gewinner98

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    Also girls won t really pay attention to you, if you text her on tinder, there are just more guys then girls. And your texting will have no value, pretty girls can get hundreds of messages each day there. So it s kinda more competitive.
    If you talk to a girl on tinder, you ll be one of the hundreads of guys who write her everyday. If you talk to a girl in real, she ll remember it:)
    So in conclusion: tinder is an option, but you ll spend a lot of time and effort, get no experience in approaching girls, which can be important in your life. Going out and approaching girls is waaay harder at the beginning but will definetely bring you a lot experience and the effort will worth it eventually.
    Sorry for my english, btw:D
     
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  9. Sounds like an excuse.

    I don’t see how not being able to verify their looks is an issue? If they don’t look like what they’ve present on the app when you meet them then you can still leave and decline future interactions with them. Furthermore you can talk about common interests over text to even see if you have enough in common to even bother meeting one another.

    This doesn’t really make sense and not because of your English. It’s because it truly doesn’t make sense. There is no reason for why some would beleive that frequent use of dating apps would result in someone having a difficult time talking with women in person. There is also nothing to support the claim that you would need 10-20 dates.
    On tinder men and women can indicate via the app who they want to interact with. This means you can swipe right on a girl who has already swiped right on your picture.

    Have you heard of the phrase “work smarter, not harder”? The idea that the best way must be the way that requires the most effort is ridiculous. Furthermore there is nothing keeping you from approaching girls while using tinder or approaching the girls on tinder by setting up a date.
     
  10. Lustorlove

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    How long are you guys in your NoFap streak
     
  11. SuperFan

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    BOOM. This is exactly the point to be making here.

    Pick any really attractive woman on Tinder, and 99 out of 100 men are going to message her. But only 1 out of those 100 men would have the balls to go and talk to her in person.

    Be the 1 out of 100. Trust me on this. Even if she rejects you, you'll discover that 1) your fear of rejection was much worse than actual rejection, and 2) you'll still feel invigorated and proud of yourself for mustering the courage to talk to her.
     
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  12. SuperFan

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    There are absolutely good reasons to believe it.

    Tinder and similar dating apps have a relatively low risk of rejection. In fact, chances are you never even really know the rejection has happened--you just didn't get swiped, or she just didn't respond to your message. But in person, rejection is much more explicit.

    Oh sure, there are all sorts of reasons of 'efficiency' to use dating apps. But if you use Tinder every single day, and yet you haven't approached a real-life woman in six months, then chances are it's because you're afraid of rejection and you're using apps as a shield ... just like 99% of other guys out there.
     
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  13. Chances are? Just like 99%? Do you like to make up motives and percentages out of thin air? You don’t get to just make up some reason that fits your assumption and then say “yep, chances are that’s the case right there!”

    Also if you’re using tinder every single day but haven’t approached someone in six months then clearly you suck at using tinder.
     
  14. SuperFan

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    See, that's the reason I qualified it by saying 'chances are'. I recognize there might be a few guys here and there who are the exceptions. But generally speaking, I'm pretty sure it's a solid theory.

    You say that like there's some correlation between using Tinder and approaching women in real life. There isn't.
     
  15. Are you pretty sure it’s a solid theory simply because you’ve made it up or do you actually have studies that support your theory?

    So there’s a correlation with using Tinder and not approaching women?
     
  16. well all been here. The difference is girls just get way more matches than guys do. So it's really hard to get a girls attention when she's got like 400 matches. So you always have to be clever on dating apps to catch their attention. I suggest meeting in person you would probably have better luck that way.
     
  17. Gewinner98

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    All I wrote is based on my experince an the experience of my friends. We re pretty good looking average guys, have been using tinder for maybe 2-3 month this summer idk. Like I personally got 10-20 dates(that s why I used this number) and there was only one successful. My friends have got no dates with the help of tinder. It s because I spent just a lot of time there, arraging meetings and they were using it far less often. One of them is in a pretty good shape, very good looking, had never problems with girls in real life. But he was just not responded on tinder. So what s wrong with you? What scientific studies are you talking about? Almost everything that is shared on this forum is based on people's experience.
    And yes, there is a STRONG correlation between tinder and approaching girls irl. If you see a good looking girl in real, but you ve been just using tinder for the last 6 month, you gonna say yourself:"hey man, You don t need it. You got thousands of them on tinder"
    You ll surely say:" oh no, I am pretty much able to both use tinder and approach girls in real " yes, you might be. But in a long term use of tinder, it leads to loss of motivation to do real things.
    So this time I ask you questions. If you say that using tinder is a skill and you "should know how to properly and effectively utilize it", than you ve probably mastered this skill of tinder:) So, without a joke and pointless discussions, could you share us your experience? How many times did you have successful dates on tinder? And if many, what s your tactics? How to "effectively and properly" use tinder?
    Peace
     
  18. lamstronger

    lamstronger Fapstronaut

    Be yourself, ask simple stuff, always end with a question if you're afraid she might not respond to you, try showing interest in her, don't always talk about yourself.
     
  19. Hitto

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    Well for people with approach anxiety it is lol and there's a correlation with that porn and Instant gratification
     
  20. I know all anyone is able to do is give their own personal experience aka anecdotal evidence. I’m not disputing that. What I take issue with is you using your own personal experience as if that’s the standard or norm for everyone. It would be like if you and your friends failed at investing and then said “the only advice that can be possibly given imo: hide your money under your mattress!”




    You should say “Given my experience with Tinder, I feel that meeting women and speaking with them face to face is a better route to go.
     

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