Why people see porn as normal ?

good question. I think it's to do with the fact that we see these urges as natural. Yes I think the urge is natural, but to go ahead and PMO and to abuse it is not natural.

we just give in to our desire and than say it's normal to justify it.

 

Because people generally don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.

 

Contrary to jmark's derogatory remark, porn being viewed as normal has become a sort of stigma in society. I mean, I don't think anyone sees porn as 'normal' but the problem lies in the fact that nobody seems to talk about it. Young teens, men, women and all sorts of other people view porn usually in the confines of a solitary room, by themselves on their own time. When was the last time somebody told you porn was normal? As one begins to become addicted, they may, after a while, feel as though porn IS normal. Just a thought.

 

Wasn't trying to be derogatory. Just calling it like I see it.

Another way to explain it is like this: people are going to do whatever they want to do, so they'll rationalize anything to be able to keep doing it. And they won't change until they themselves want to. No one can make another person change. Change has to come from within.

 

Actually, I disagree with beauty. People DO view porn as normal.

In fact, I am an editor for a publishing house, and even in the women's literature section, porn is referenced as normal. If there were the slightest chance the readers would see it as objectionable, I would be instructed to have my authors change the books. I never am so instructed because the readers never mind.

People in general will assume that the things they've heard/read are accurate, unless something large in their personal experience indicates otherwise. The members here have experienced the dark side of porn. They know better. Most people don't think about it because masturbation feels good. Porn facilitates masturbation. How can that be bad?

We here know better, but it is a mistake to generalize from that.

 

Hmm, interesting input. I know for myself personally, I NEVER viewed porn as normal. I sort of rationalized my porn usage by saying everyone else was doing it, and everyone else was inherently fine. I knew porn was dark, I knew porn was dangerous, and I knew I was committing a sin. But I still did it.

You're going to base your entire opinion on a women's section in a magazine?

What you think would be a common answer if you asked 100 on the street today if porn was normal?

 

If I asked 100 people, I would expect to get around 90 of them viewing porn as normal. Doubtless, there would be some caveats in there regarding the most "hardcore" types, but porn in general would be accepted.

No, first of all it's not a magazine. It's a publishing house, and I edit novels. It's not something I read. It's part of my job to know this.

I think the clue is in the part of your post where you refer to porn as "a sin". It is generally the religious who still have some conception that porn is bad, even if they have not yet experienced its dark side like those here.

I, too, was raised in a religious home, and I knew that pornography was wrong. I was also brought up, however, in several different countries. I was exposed to billboards on the street that were ... I do not want to trigger anyone, so I won't describe the details, but they were straight up porn. And that was nearly 30 years ago. So I was aware of the disconnect between what I myself (and my family) thought and what those around me in general thought.

 

You really think 90% of people think porn is "normal"? I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. I think 90% of people would say porn is indecent and crass. But these people will nonetheless still view the material.

Regardless of my religious back round, porn IS bad. There is nothing positive about the nature of the material whatsoever. And I'm not just saying that because I became dependent on it. It is, at its core, objectionable and tasteless. NO positive innovations have sprung from viewing or creating porn. None.

I do not question for a second the advertising of porn on billboards all around the world. Society as we know it today it becoming increasingly sexualized. It's scary. But these advertisements are not created by everyday people. It's the industry, that advertises and feeds the ceaseless demand of porn all around the world, hooking new innocent minds, and feeding the helpless against their addiction.

Perhaps society has become accustomed to porn in a way. It's made to SEEM normal. I'm still trying to figure it out. One thing I know for certain is that the porn industry takes in billions of dollars every year.

Perhaps in Canada, I have had different experiences and views on this subject. I suppose it depends WHERE you ask the 100 people.

 

Hmmm interesting. I think that it depends on where you ask these 100 people. How open and if they are honest or tell the truth.

But I think its over time I mean a pg-13 movie might have been rated R a few years ago. Hardcore will always be hardcore I doubt that will ever change but people have started to look at wearing no clothes as normal. And fifty years ago that would have been in a magazine and now its not. I think its just that over time society as a whole has been desensitized just from movies the media and over time things that were extreme or out there slowly became more normal I think thats what happened.

 

I agree with you. Porn IS bad. Absolutely. I just don't think that that many people realize it anymore. And these billboards we are discussing, whether they are designed by ordinary people or not soon becomes immaterial. They are viewed by ordinary people, viewed often enough to desensitize them.

And perhaps Finalfight123 has a good point, too, on what exactly people will think of as "porn". What we would call porn nowadays is much more hardcore than what would have been porn 50 or 75 years ago. What we think of as "advertising" now would certainly have been porn then. Music videos, for instance, are not considered "porn" now, but do you think someone from 50 years ago would agree? Would not that person be as horrified as we on NoFap are at "porn"?

I do agree that it would depend on where and when one asked these hypothetical people what sort of answer one would get, but that would, I think, be only because people are hesitant to admit to their real proclivities.

 

I agree with your comments throughout this thread, Beauty. Perhaps the only difference is that I would hesitate to speculate that 90% of people would say porn is indecent and crass. However, I would say that a significant majority would do so.

 

I refer to twerking. It's pornographic, though it's all over normal music videos and on normal TV shows now.

 

4 words: Fifty Shades of Grey. Porn is becoming increasingly normal. People joke about their MOMS reading that book. It's a best seller, it's openly discussed. Now it's going to be a SILVER SCREEN movie. Can you believe that? ...I can't.

It's not even like a normal romance novel, it's BDSM!!!

If that's not indicative of the moral trend of this world, I don't know what is.

 

because porn is good and happiness.

 

Precisely. It is indeed BDSM (though not particularly accurate), and it is accepted as normal.

As jmark mentioned, too, "twerking" is also considered normal.

I think the best indicator of the normalization of porn is the creeping "pornification" of what would be considered normal viewing.

 

I think we are all on the same page here. Desensitization seems to be the 15 letter key word. Glad we can all come to a consensus though! Now if only we can convince the rest of the world..

 

As much as for myself I always had a sense that it was "bad" because of the religious way I was raised, I IMMEDIATELY thought upon reading the thread's title BECAUSE IT FEELS GOOD. Orgasms feel good, right? Who in their right mind would refuse one? I haven't lived much but it sure is the most pleasurable my body has witnessed for now. I think it's inherent to human nature, by default, to seek pleasure, perhaps because it is associated by default too to happiness. Of course I think that we ALL can say here that this is definitely not true, but for someone that isn't addicted, I completely understand that it might seem crazy to deprive yourself from basic pleasure. Idk it's like buying your favourite food and not eating it? Like going in super expensive holidays and staying locked inside?

On top of that of course there is society and all. But I think euroman is perfectly right. Just my two cents though of course.

Perhaps also as we're quitters we've come to a point where everything that looks remotely erotic appears to be porn for us as it is recognized as "fake" by our brain as we're not living it? Anything that doesn't involves safe sex with a person fully committing and committed is porn or PMO related then? This could explain why I feel so damn bad every time I see my favourite singers dance the tiniest bit.

 

Actually, I am here as a support to my husband. I don't masturbate and never have, but I agree that the dancing singers to whom you refer are intending to be provocative, and therefore there is a pornographic slant to what they are doing, regardless of their state of undress.

 

Not even, that's the worst part haha! It's not at all pornographic nor recognized as such; I must admit that sometimes I'm really looking for grinding stuff and all, but for me the simple fact of looking to a girl I like dancing, maybe because music = sex for me, is enough to switch me. But really, it's just the singer enjoying her song at a gig, dancing like you would in a party. Perhaps it's the proximity with the real world that's exciting then?

PS: Wow, huge respect for you. Keep being awesome Lady. We need people like you!