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BEWARE of "Sissy Hypnosis"

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Mikey_Niner, Mar 31, 2017.

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  1. Reborn16

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    It is interesting how some different type of porn can have a totally different effect, I noticed that too.

    I'm in my 20s with less life experience, but I have fapped almost daily for much of my life. In the last year I've tried to quit porn and masturbation (mainly porn though). And the effects in energy I notice after only a week or a few weeks are significant.

    I won't preach too much, but I wonder if you went 7 days without porn or masturbation, how you would feel?

    Again, up to you - but it would almost without a doubt help your sleep at the very least!
     
  2. DeadDiamonds

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    I have already gone 7 days without jerking it at some point in the past. I forget why I did it. I think it was a challenge I did to myself just to see if I could. I remember after a few days I stopped craving jerking and forgot all about it. I think I purposefully (not because of craving) started to jerk again because I was worried it would cause built up tension or something, or that it's not healthy for the prostate to not empty the tank, like a geyser building up too much pressure that needs to be released.

    I didn't come to this forum because of fapping addict, I came here because of searching Google how to get rid of side effects from a couple hours total of jerking to a few sissy hypnos.

    But I'm going to do that tracking journal 90 day thing with you guys anyway. Because in the process of me sorting myself out and getting back to normal 100%, which has been happening gradually since Tuesday (4 days now), the revelations that I think to be true are exactly the things I'm reading from others giving explanation as advice what's really going on and what I should do. Such as stop porn for a few days. I think I saw some other advice saying to quit pot. No sweat, I quit weed before, I only started smoking again recently because a friend gave me a large amount for free. So just a few minutes ago I dumped about 3 full mason jars, my entire stash, down the toilet.

    I've decided to make it my life's mission to inform others and spread awareness about this, because it's very serious. It's ridiculous there are CIA weapons-grade brainwashing videos on the internet that have a very strong effect on ... just about anyone. Not just weak-minded people or people who are not completely sure 100% with their sexual identity, but even the most masculine straight men get seriously affected by these videos.
     
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  3. I agree with previous posts that this kind of P is particularly dangerous, as it contains a psychological, identity-manipulating component absent from more vanilla types. Especially the use of harmful phrases, in text captions or spoken in videos, which are then linked with the dopamine-high of extended PMO sessions.

    In that state of fantasy-based arousal these mental suggestions, which may at the time just seem as fetishistic thrills, can actually be implanted in the subconscious mind which can cause a worrisome state later, when one feels a confusing cognitive dissonance. (e.g. "Where are these feelings and thoughts coming from, this is't me!")

    In my opinion this stuff is truly poisonous and to be honest, it was my gradual exposure to it that made me realize that after years of massive P consumption I had really slipped into an alarming area and decided I would absolutely never look at it again. I hope others here will join me in banning this evil junk from their lives totally and forever.
     
  4. Hi SkiBum
    Unfortunately you have experienced that not everything that is "nice to feel" is healthy for your life.
    Does that mean that it cannot be changed? Of course it can change.
    You are lured into some seduction and you was too curious to say "no" to it.
    The strong feelings you have experienced made that you went further and further. Not knowing the results of it.

    Because of the strong feelings of pleasure, you will experience a strong pull, that is the addictive part.
    But when you use your own mind, you can reasoning why you should not give in to it again.

    Please leave it alone, don't go back to that hypnosis stuff. If you share this with others, here or in your life, you will get restored.

    And remember this: suicide is not giving you the solution for the problem.
    You don't want to die. You want to live and love. Right? Keep that in mind.
     
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  5. As a reply to this post in common I would like to contribute my 2 cents

    I've been involved in sissy and feminization stuff when I was a young kid.
    I had n't seen a single image or porn movie, I never heard about erotic hypnosis of handfree stuff.
    But the stuff was in my mind when I was 8 years old.

    For years I longed to be a girl. I fantasise every evening, uses my mothers cloths and makeup secretly.
    And I went all the way down. In the end I was able to fantasise about being taken by a man's c#ck, so fantasising about having a vagina. I hope I can use these words freely here. But I couldn't talk to anybody about this. I was lonely.

    I created a double life. At age of 21 years my life was collapsed completely. That happened after another self suck session.
    It was absolutely shocking what I had to experience. It was pure fear and regret. I had that fear in my body for years. I was woken up, and know I had to face everything I had done to myself.

    But slowly I began to think, began to read, began to study, collection insights, collecting wisdom.

    After some years of seeking and studying I found Gods love (I am a Christian). I hope this will not start a discussion here, I just want to share some things out of my life. I begun to understand what was going on in my life and I deeply understand that I had a huge problem and I had no other choice than to face it and to start the battle in myself. To change my thoughts that was the hardest part. To change your thoughts and beliefs while your body and feelings were yelling for the next "pleasurable experience".

    The years after I begun to grow. Very slowly I changed my addicted live to something better.
    I develop new habits, I try to develop friendships, I faced lots of inner pain (caused in my child hood).
    I discovered that the opening for my sissy - wanting a girl - addiction was a strong attaching problem with my mom.
    While I neiter was attached to my dad :-( Not being attached was causing a very strong feeling of unsafety in my life.
    Fantasize being a girl and later, surrender to "strong women - goddesses" were ways for me to feel safe. But the truth was - of course - these ladies didn't give me any safety. After all I couldn't trust them, couldn't build on them, in fact they are selfish, they need slaves to be somebody themselves. They are slaves as well.

    But while I was processing the inner pain and gone through it, the urge for "using porn" become less. I was growing out of it step by step, falling back, standing up and then one step further.

    In 2014 I suddenly discovered a strange thing on youtube: erotic hypnosis.
    And suddenly I felt back, deeper than before. I discovered what an hfo (hands free orgasm) was.
    I discovered sissy hypnosis, cock worshipping, surrender to mistresses -stuff and much more.

    There was one thing I know for sure. This new discovered thing was "just another way to lure me in to lust".
    Same thing (creating feelings of lust) but a different way.

    2 years ago I start talking with another (older christian) man. I share literally everything about my life and every time I felt back into my "lust problem" I talk to him and together we pray to God. This had helped me a lot. This gave me the peace in my life I needed.

    I wanted to share my story here because I don't know other men struggling with this things and that is keeping me very lonely. Even my accountability partner doesn't really understand what I am talking about.

    I am here to listen to others, to share my experiences, to encourage others and to pointing in the right direction.

    I choose to be vulnerable because I think that is the best thing I can do to become and to stay free from the wicked things.
     
  6. Vojtech Sram

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    Keep fighting guys!
     
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  7. Annette

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    Anyone can go into a trance and accept suggestions especially if it brings pleasure. Maybe there’s agenda with some sissy hypno but not all. That agenda could be porn and prostitution of trans women. Or the creation of trans women through suggestion... Hmmmm.

    The reason why I listen go to sissy hypno I’m transgender. The appeal to me for forced feminization has to do w past conditioning and limiting beliefs from fully transitioning. If your not transgender you can’t no the hell how it feels. I find myself letting go and just becoming more of who I am inside already. The reward is I am able to express it instead now. It’s not an addiction for me. I make my own hypno videos.

    Some sissy captions I agree with but most does little to promote and build up the trans community many of who already struggle with issues. Using bad words doesn’t make me feel great I usually just turn off the file.

    There’s big difference in being treated like a woman and treated like a slut. So for all hypno creators, something to consider.
     
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  8. Annette

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    It works by double induction, anchoring, suggestion, gestalt, brainwave entrainment, binaural beats, sound frequencies. Since people are already masturbating to it the subconscious sees it as good and accepts it. It’s brainwashing.
     
  9. I wonder what you did first: did you first listen to hypno files, or did you "know" you are transgender before?
    I battled the forced feminization by myself. I know there is a way out.
    Did you already solved your root issues that are laying under the need to be "forced" ?
     
  10. Annette

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    I’m born intersexed so I have battle this my entire life. I never really developed as a male. I didn’t real get into any of this sissy hypno until maybe last week. I’ve used hypnosis and guided imagery for years mostly for spirituality and self help.

    I’ve been on hormones for half year now and already losing interest with sissy hypno because I don’t think it’s going to be able to lead me into any decent life as a woman. It seem more like just turning into sex objects and repeatedly anchoring triggers to arousal. Not really looking for this sort of thing but yes it is addictive and something I’ve already decided to walk away from. I never was much for porn. Having lack of testosterone tends to curb that.

    The need to feel forced seem to come from this steady pressure to conform to dress standards. Maybe I’m trying to rush the process. I’m quite happy doing my makeup on my own. I guess a lot of this is internalized as to what people are expecting out of a trans woman. It’s pretty awkward to go from one set of clothes to a different set. My wardrobe is good mix of 50/50 now with outfits I can match up for male or female looks. My issue was trying to speed up the process.

    I’m also dealing with other pressure to not change or do anything drastic from friends and this inner need and desire to be who I am. The last thing on my mind right now is sex, I’d rather enjoy my friendships and talk to others on a similar path. I do worry about my future and where it’s going w transition but it’s solved some of these internal struggles that come from being born this way. I can be a convincing male but upon closer look people can tell from these sex characteristics I should have been female. When I was telling people I was male sometimes it just led to arguments and sometimes I’d just not bother to correct them. It just make me isolate more from people because I’m not like them. When I started wearing makeup in my 20s people often thought was girl. I often thought I was too. It was very isolated life cut off from everyone. I remember when this whole transgender thing took off I’d been going stealth for over a decade and decided it was time to stop running or rather life decided it was time.

    So a little information. My issues are medical not just an idea. I’m not discrediting transgender people either. Some of them truly are born in the wrong body.
     
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  11. Hoffman25

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    Hi everyone,
    I’m new to nofap and I was amazed to see so many others affected by sissy porn. I thought I was alone and wouldn’t be able to find others who shared some of the same struggles. I’ve never shared my entire story before but think it’s time because I’m most likely going to destroy myself if I keep going down the path I’m on. Just to preface I’m not going to go into detail about the complexities of my family dynamics and upbringing. I’ll only say nothing particularly traumatic happened and some mysterious combination of nature and nurture led me to become the person I am with the proclivities I have. Sorry for the length but I feel like I need to get my whole story out. I apologize if this triggers anyone. Here goes:

    I saw myself as very “masculine” growing up and (I presume) others did as well. I was very athletic, social, and dated some really attractive women. I started M around 11 (pre-internet) and pretty much have been doing this for 25 years with a few breaks. The longest being about 6 months. I have always been totally attracted to women. Around puberty I had a strange desire to try on my sisters makeup and clothes. We were very close in age and still have a good relationship today. I’m pretty sure she has no idea to this day. This behavior was so at odds with my personality and everyday life that I repressed it and didn’t think much about it at all and was very ashamed that I did it. At some point it became a fetish and I would think about crossdressing when jerking it or would do it when no one was home. It was a cycle of intense pleasure followed by intense shame and self hatred. Looking back now I can see how I was attracted to females but this fantasy was hijacking my arousal patterns and allowing me to feel a sort of intimacy with women while becoming like them in a weird subconscious way. My true desire is to be intimate with a woman and this was a strange way of getting there. For whatever reason this fetish stuck and went from being something way out in left field to something that is all I can get off to now. This was greatly amplified by sissy porn which I first saw maybe 2 years ago.

    Growing up this weird fetish was the thing I hated most in my life and it brought so much distress, preoccupation, & paranoia. I didn’t choose it and I couldn’t get rid of it. I questioned whether I was gay but bottom line I was not into men.

    This went on throughout my high school years almost in the background. I lived a double life and would only acknowledge these thoughts and behaviors when I was completely alone. I felt like I could never tell anyone about this and developed intense fear and social anxiety that hindered me from having close friendships. I still had relationships with girls and lived a pretty normal life. Played all kinds of sports, got into fights, and had a lot of “masculine” hobbies. The internet was out at this time and I added porn to my routine when I was alone which accelerated my fantasy life and made it into an addiction. This turned me inward and hindered close relationships.

    When I started college I was experimenting with alcohol and drugs. I was self medicating for my anxiety and fears. Around this time my parents found out when I flunked out of school and decided to help me get into a rehab. I decided to try it and was amazed when I had what seemed like a religious experience and stopped using substances so that I could get to the root of my problems. I recognized that my fantasy life and masturbation were contributing to many of my problems and vowed to never do it again now that I had God in my life. I actually stopped PMO for around 6 months. I was involved in AA and would substitute my sexual behavior for alcohol in my mind. It seemed to work for a while but eventually I had a lot of distress related to keeping these secrets for so long. I had what was probably a nervous breakdown and was hospitalized for suicidal ideations.

    When I got out I was very confused and relapsed back into PMO and drinking and drugs pretty hard. I decided to start going to church and eventually threw myself into Christianity big time. This became my obsession for about a decade and there were some really good things that it provided. The support system was great. I was in men’s accountability groups and learned how to serve others and get out of myself. However I felt like I could never tell anyone about my real struggles and would always be very vague out of shame and a feeling that no one could possibly relate. I was still living a double life and would have binges of PMO that would last several days. I also began to notice that I was constantly needing more novel forms of porn. I was never able to have real close relationships with men or women because I thought everyone would reject me if they knew everything about me and I just had low confidence. I had a few relationships with women that never lasted very long. Around this time I started going to strip clubs alone because fantasy was a lot easier than real life and there’s no rejection. However I hated myself even more. There was a lot of shame and guilt associated with sexual issues in the churches I went to which was really unhealthy as well. I went to SA for a while but never met anyone who shared the same struggle and eventually stopped going.

    I eventually left the church because even though there were a lot of benefits I didn’t think it was true. I decided to experiment with my sexuality and dove back into PMO and random hookups. I also started drinking and smoking weed again. The fantasy life became stronger and around this time I found sissy porn and feminization. I decided to stop fighting it and see if maybe I was gay or trans and really look into these issues. The cycle of intense pleasure, followed by shame and self hatred was greater than ever before, but I couldn’t stop. The effects it has on my life are worse than ever before. I have no confidence and isolate myself in my apartment on my days off. I feel like a prisoner and thoughts of suicide are more intense than they have been in a long time. The sissy porn led me to start fantasizing about men and imagining I was a woman getting fucked. I started buying dildos and butt plugs. When I was living my normal life I wanted nothing to do with this and I was still not attracted to men. I joined a gay dating app and chatted with some guys but never met up with anyone because I just wasn’t into it. I thought maybe it was a gender identity issue for me and maybe I was trans. The core of my fantasy was that I would “feel” very feminine while I was aroused and “become” the women I was attracted to in my fantasies. However the feeling was of becoming/feeling very sensual and then becoming very passive and submissive. However, I realize it has very little to do with needing to be a woman 24/7 and is tied to my sexual arousal patterns and is therefore a fetish. The disconnect from reality is so staggering. I am a muscular, hairy af, smelly dude who enjoys being a dude 95% of the time. However This addiction is like a cancer that is destroying my masculinity and leaving me broken and severely depressed and I can’t stop because the dopamine hits are too good. It’s literally destroying the neural circuitry in my brain and I’m fucking still doing it.

    Sorry this post is so fucking long. I just had to spill my guts. I do have some good tools to fight this but I don’t always use them. I exercise regularly, eat well, take cold showers sometimes, trying to meditate. What I need more than anything is accountability from people who understand the struggle of destructive PMO habits regardless of the form it takes. Right now I am a few hours sober. Thanks for reading.
     
  12. I'm glad you're here and you're still fighting to put an end to your fetish. It sounds like thats really not who you are and if you can separate yourself from porn long enough, I'm sure those tendencies will fade. You know what you need to do so dont judge yourself, be patient with yourself and keep trying.
     
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  13. @Hoffman25
    Hi buddy, I am so glad you've made your story here.
    I feel amazing sorry for you. As... I've gone through exactly the same issues.
    I know all about the secret double life, about the crossdressing actions while nobody is at home.
    I know about that feminization and sissy stuff and how deep it can pull you into the pit. I know about the identity confuses, am I straight or am I gay? Do I want to be a man or maybe a woman?

    But there is hope buddy. I'm glad you know the Lord, and He will not let you down, whatever you did.

    The whole sissy and feminization stuff..... it's just another form of porn. But the same spirit of lust we have to battle.
    I know the struggle to grow out of it, but..... it's worth it.
    I've written certain posts here about my own life. Please read it if it may help you.
    Feel free to pass by, ask questions. You don't need to do this alone!
     
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  14. I can relate to these things even though i luckely could stop myself before going to far.

    It was not until i started to watch sissy stuff it really hit me i needed to stop porn.
    Suddenly I was like "hell no !" this is not me. Porn is not the friend i thought it was. It tricked me into these things.. :(

    Though one of the reasons i got into the transwoman stuff was a felt "betrayed" by real women IRL or atleast that i was not good enough.. I still feel kinda like that but i know i am straight and i dont want porn to cloud my mind anymore. It will only worsen my chances of finding someone someday..
     
  15. This is an important observation imho. I think this is often how this messed up fetish starts. There's a huge difference between being attracted to femininity (as embodied by say your girlfriend/wife) and wanting to actually be feminine yourself. There is a kind of mental experimentation which occurs where you change how you experience feminine things from directly interacting with a real woman, to - in your fantasy - temporarily inhabiting a woman's mind/body during PMO sessions. There can be an intense arousal as you're flooded with all these taboo thoughts and imagined feelings, followed immediately afterwords by instant disgust, shame, confusion at what just happened.

    What's important to realize here is this (from what I've read) is not how real transgender people act. They want to wear women's clothes, makeup, etc. all throughout the day/night because it just feels right to them internally - not just during some fap session in a highly-sexualized fetishistic way. They are actually attracted to men, including romantically, all the time - not just temporarily imagining what that might be like during a late-nite P binge. These are huge differences between true trans identities and this stupid sissy fetish stuff. The problem comes with the addition of this crack cocaine hypno junk that - while heightening the fantasy - also further muddles one's actual thinking over time and can get you to question yourself.

    I tell you it's all b.s., it's not who you are. But it is powerful and damaging to one's psyche and you have to stop right now, and forever. I'm going to tell you that I encountered this evil stuff at the end-stage of many years of escalating P addiction, and it's the one that finally woke me up and brought me to nofap. And after now almost 90 days totally P-free I have felt my old self begin to return, and it's wonderful. My whole life I've adored women and had zero interest in guys - this is my true orientation, and now that it's unclouded from this particularly evil and warped form of P, I feel like myself again.

    Trust me this stuff is dangerous and it is not 'harmless fun'. We live in times where the politically-correct culture is telling us that there are different types of gender identity so just do what you want and it's all ok - which is fine - but if you have started to warp your own true identity in artificially manipulative ways then it can be very harmful and result in self-doubt, anxiety, depression, etc. and that is most definitely not fucking fine. It's good that you posted your story here. It takes a lot of courage. There are definitely others here who can relate. There is hope. What is important is that you must stay away from P - all P - for a good amount of time to let your brain reset back to normal (whatever that is for you).
     
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  16. Yes, there are. I can relate.

    Well said @chiyu
     
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  17. You are definitely NOT alone --- this is not uncommon among str8 guys.
    Reading your struggles --- there is NO WAY you are trans, or gay, from the sounds of it. You describe this from a totally str8 guy perspective and thought process.
    Yup. You nailed it. You ID'd the issue succinctly.
    ...and you described the solutions too!! :) I always tell guys struggling with this: "Do guy stuff!" So, be like Nike -- Just Do It!
    ...welcome to NoFap! A bunch of people here deal with this in various ways.

    Here is a thread I started a while back with just some observations and thoughts --- maybe it is use, maybe not----

    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.p...-addictions-just-some-random-thoughts.136028/

    I wish you peace and I know you all find it --- you have 95% of the answers already. :)
     
  18. Lindahx

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    I have been listening to audios and occasionally seeing sissy vids on pornhub. I like the arousal it gives me. I regard sex as a kind of menu - I am not married and I like to try different things. I do dress occasionally as a slut and have found both men and women that likes me being dressed in pvc. I do have one reservation though - the porn viewing is at times rather time consuming. I therefore use audios to make me into a horny sissy - and i do like a dominant man to take care of me. I do find that having sex with dominant men can be very exciting, but after a while the lust for male sex burns out and I am back with women again. I do respect that some people have a sex and porn addiction, but my experience from meeting very few individuals like that is that the guilt factor is the worst for them. My advice to them has always been: Try to make a contract with yourself - agree on how much of your limited time this is going to consume. Sex is good and it is free for most of us... ! Enjoy...
     
  19. Hi @Lindahx
    It's fine that you "enjoy" this kind of lifestyle, but I am not very happy you encourage to use this kind of videos as it is very clear that sissy hypno videos has harmed a lot of people here.
    As the name of this side is "NoFap" maybe you can explain a little more what your meaning for being here is.
     
  20. Lindahx

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    Hi Roady
    As a psychologist and human being I am concerned about people mastering their daily lives. For some people abstaining from selfsex and porn it might be helpful, but for most people creating a contract with themselves is helping them and reducing a guilt that might ruin their lives. This website interests me - some advice given seems to be of good value - others that for instance say that hypnofeminization is worldwide conspiracy, is pure nonsense and might trigger serious paranoia disorders in young people that do not have a grown stable sexuality.
     
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