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Different Stages of Flatline - What is flatline

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Mateo89, Feb 11, 2017.

  1. Think i'm entering into phase two. I had a glimpse what it was like on previous reboots and yesterday I noticed I gained my focus/attention back in my college class.
     
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  2. returnOfTheKing

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    I'm so glad I saw this b/c I have had a bunch of those symptoms too! And shit I was about to go to a neurologist for the dizziness and focus, head pressure. Also like a headache on one side of the head. Have you found any relief? It's insane that stopping PMO could cause this.

    It looks like a lot of people posting in this area have similar counter numbers. I was very surprised to see that I still have no libido and dead dick etc. I was with a girl who is exactly my favorite physical type and I had no response at all.

    Has anyone else noticed a wave or oscillating flatline? In other words, for a while there I thought things were going better, but based on what just happened, I HAVE to still be in a flatline b/c I can't even really even visualize myself hooking up with her. So it's like peaks and valleys. Never super high peaks but certainly better than dead dick.
     
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  3. returnOfTheKing

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    ^^^^^^ THIS. Exactly -- so many people are talking about all this partner reboot and every time I read it I'm thinking dude--- if you have PIED, and flatline, dead dick, other stuff.... how are you going to go spit game and then get into a relationship? And stay in one after a number of sexual misfires. Maybe it's easier if you're in college with access to lots of females without having a huge work day carve out your social time but, yeah I never understood how that was a viable path much less how so many ppl seem to do/recommend it.

    In other words, I would like to see us develop more self-applied flat line strategies, not just finding a girl to help.
     
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  4. At what point does the coasting phase kick in?
     
  5. xmen

    xmen New Fapstronaut

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    great thread to follow, thanks alot!

    Currently at 34 days with edge twice, currently beginning severe flatline, lack of energy, "lazyness", unable to focus on studies etc. Currently alternating cycles of calm/pleasant demeanor with "what are you looking at" bitchyness.

    Being a Computer Science major, I have to work an entire day on the computer. It is particularly difficult to maintain efficient work while resisting the urge to watch porn.. Would recommend sports/weight lifting to help pass the time and focus energy positively, which it has for me.
     
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  6. Anonymous86

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    Anyone here know if it's possible to fap so much to porn, that your penis goes dead and shrivels up small, and then you gain flatline symptoms? Because I pretty much have most of the flatline symptoms except I didn't get them by abstaining from porn.
     
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  7. Mateo89

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    Yes, this is a big indicator of sexual exhaustion, sexual debt and a severe addiction. It is your body telling you it no longer can handle an orgasm, shutting off the libido system completely. The only cure for this is a long reboot for you unfortunately. Some people remain in sexual exhaustion for years, forcing orgasm after orgasm, putting further taxing on a overdepleted body, until they realize that they are addicted.

    Seek help, and get started.

    Best
    Mateo
     
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  8. Anonymous86

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    What's the different between sexual exhaustion and PIED though? Is there any?
     
  9. Mateo89

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    PIED is a symptom of Porn addiction and is your brain's change of wiring to the higher stimulus of Pornography. So the main symptom is you lose interest in real loving, intimate encounters or struggle to create an erection during one. However with the presence of porn you dont have issues. In optimal Healthy relationships, sex is not an addiction but an act of lovemaking, as well as child bearing. Healthy sexual activity in the presence of love regenerates the man, whereas addiction based PMO destroys a man.

    Sexual exhaustion is when you lose sexual function completely regardless of stimulus, due to your body becoming exhausted from excessive PMO, MO or orgasm. Putting you basically into a flatline, until your body can recover back to homeostasis. A lot of addicts continue to force an orgasm despite this, and put them into further sexual debt, only furthering the recovery process...So for these addicts, they start their reboot in flatline essentially.

    If you are in this stage, you are severely addicted, and probably have a host of other symptoms whether it be physical, social, mental what have you.

    Best
    Mateo
     
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  10. Anonymous86

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    So sexual exhaustion basically has the same mental and physical symptoms of flatline? Interesting...
     
  11. Mateo89

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    The way the body works in recovery is it needs to turn something off in order to heal. NoFap and sexual energy is no different. During flatline or the shutdown of libido is when the body and brain begin its recovery process.

    This can happen thru sexual exhaustion or thru the recovery process of PMO. As the brain needs to rewire it's settings back to real life partners it requires the libido to b shut off. Or if the body can no longer maintain the energy for sexual function due to exhaustion it will shut it off as well.


    Best
    Mateo
     
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  12. FEEL

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    Coasting flatline ftw lol
     
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  13. dangon master

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    all of the post was great and awesome o was happy to read it thanx for this post
     
  14. himydv007

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    Thanks man for this post. It has given me the new perspective of Nofap journey that yeah! It can also happen and I'm not new who is feeling like that. And it will help me out in this journey.
     
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    Hello
    Today is my 28th day of PMO.I don't know I am in flatline or not. I'm providing some details here about me please help me to recognise this is flatline or not.Here we go.

    7 year and 1 month masterbation almost all day,till 8th April 2018. current age is 20.
    My first week was normal.second week urges increases some semen leakage during Pop.Here I was not paying attention toward girls,or If see any hot or bold girl that not work like trigger for me.In 3rd week same behaviour towards girls,but here pee hurt the tip of penise for 3 to 4 days and then it gradually decrease hurting, No leakage for semen during poop this week.In 4th week which is going on ,starting of this I saw some hot pics on Instagram they trigger me when I continually watching them for 15 20 min. my penise become hard,my hand on penise not edging but trying to turn my penise in various directions.after that when I stop doing it,and penise became flaccid transparent liquid comes from penise. also when I talking to my classmate my penise becomes hard,and when back to flaccid position that liquid comes. got blue ball yesterday due to this. Today when doing poop precum leakage (white watry),In this face of time some liquid of anything else I feel passing through area near penise.

    Anyway my memory improve than before.I Don't feel to do masterbate now.Marterbation thoughts not comes.But anxiety is same(may be due to family matters,but it go after sometime),eyes vision is same,penise area feels like it full of liquid and heavier then before,but penise becomes more fattier than before and smooth also.
    Not doing meditation,no exercise,not on nutritional diet,just taking normal diet,more milk.

    Am I on flatline ??
    please help,and give advice.any type of advice are welcome.
     
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  16. Newman2day

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    Sooo,I haven't been able to get past a month,if even that.After about 3 or 4 weeks,the urge to whack is ridiculous! And when I do about 4 or 5 times.Its euphoria! Then I'm ok tilll about the same time later.Theres weeks in between whacks.You think at least some progress is being made?
     
  17. GettingAGrip

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    I got over most of the symptoms, I've been working out, eating healthy, taking vitamins.
    Porn and masturbation make me wanna throw up if I ever think about them anymore.
    I only feel fatigued/tired at noon, around 1:30 until about 4:30-5. That's after I have my lunch and go back to work lol. I work 8-5.
    Is that normal? Or could that just be tiredness from work?

    Thanks!
     
  18. coolcrisp

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    If youve been completely clean for 49 days, I'd like to think that's long enough for recovery, so it probably is just work tiredness. I think it doesn't do to blame everything in your life on the fact that you masturbated 50 days ago or whenever.

    Goodluck man, thats a longer time than I've managed since I was 13 years old I think! Keep it up !
     
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  19. coolcrisp

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    Any reduction is progress! , however, however much you want to achieve is up to you.
     
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  20. GettingAGrip

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    The tiredness hasn't been as much as it was when I posted this (almost a month ago), however I still do have PIED most of the time.
    But that's just gonna take time.
    Thanks man!
     

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