The atrociously evils in our society of today

Clumsy has been banned.

It was probably for his own benefit because I was determined to debunk his crazy ideas as much as I could. I only came back to this forum last night and I was rubbing my hands with glee at the opportunity to take the p*ss out of this self-important idiot. And if I'm rubbing my hands with glee, then I can't masturbate, right?

But it is also for his benefit because Clumsy clearly wasn't taking responsibility for his recovery from porn addiction. He was obsessed with looking for the badness in others, in particular his father, rather than seeking the goodness in himself.

I hope that Clumsy at some point will take responsibility for his actions. I'm sure that his permanent recovery from PMO will then be successful.

 

Clumsy got banned. DAMN.

 

It doesn't bother me that Clumsy has been banned again - he stirred up too much bad feeling to be a positive asset to this forum.

On the subject of diet, I've been vegan for more than a year and vegetarian for over 10 years. I know through experience that it's possible to be healthy or unhealthy on a veg*n diet, and that it's made absolutely no difference to my sex drive or masturbation habits (apart from being less likely to want a relationship with an omnivorous woman).

Yes of course I'd recommend being vegetarian - but that's because of ethical issues and nothing to do with nofap.

 

Hey, Clarity. Can you please explain what's the difference between vegans and vegetarians? Also, I heard that in order to be a vegetarian you have to add to your nutrition food supplements, especially B12 vitamin and phosphorus. What's your thoughts on this? Thanks.

 

Vegetarianism = not eating the flesh of any animal, including fish
Veganism = not eating or consuming any animal product, including dairy, eggs, wool, silk, honey or leather.

Some vegetarians still wear leather, some avoid other animal products. A vegetarian who eats fish is correctly called a pescetarian.

B12 is a bacteria that occurs naturally on plants, but because of modern cultivation techniques it typically gets washed away by pesticides and also by our own cleansing.

So, when people eat meat they get B12 through the animal's diet. You can still get it through eggs and dairy, but it's harder to get from following a vegan diet unless you eat a lot of unwashed organic produce. Meat eaters can be deficient in this too if they're eating low quality mass killed meat.

As for phosphorous, well I don't know that much about it to be honest, but I'm fairly confident I'm not deficient in anything through my own diet. I will, however, supplement B12 as a matter of caution - but it's usually added to fortified cereals and soya products anyway.

 

Hahhahaaha! Clumsy is quite the character...

Which moderator ended him?

~Squeaky Soul

 

Thanks for your response. Two extra questions, please. Soya products? Isn't soya harmful? Also, are there any recommended books to people who want to learn more about vegetarianism or should I ask only a Nutritiologist?

 

I have a question about veganism, by no mean do I wish to be offending, please correct me if anything I say is wrong!

Why do vegans chose to avoid products such as eggs and honey? Because it's not technically dead meat? It's not flesh? Is it by empathy for the animals - which I perfectly respect and understand?

Also do vegans still eat soya and such products? I have very mixed opinions about this plant, and I wonder how it is possible to mix veganism and the healthiest diet possible.

If I understood well, soy is responsible for a large part of the destruction of the Amazonian forest, due to crops being created. This destroys the natural living habitat of countless animals. Wouldn't it be natural for a vegan to also avoid soy? Or for practical purposes and to avoid deficiencies, it is better to still consume soy?

Thank you very much for your answers!

EDIT: sorry, just saw your post Adjoint! Sorry for the double post!

 

I don't know, but I think all dairy products are off the menu because they come from animals (albeit indirectly). Soy? I really don't know, sorry.

 

For me it's more about the way they're produced.

Chickens being kept in cages, or even indoor pens, not allowed any freedom - it's part of the same industry.

Honey is food for hibernating bees. In the winter the honey is often stolen from bees and they get to live on sugary water instead. Very often the hives get smoked out at the end of the season, thus killing the bees or forcing them to flee.

I do, but I don't eat much of it.

I don't have time to go into the details here, but something like 80% of soya production goes into feeding livestock.

Veganism is not a perfect philosophy and it's nigh on impossible to avoid every animal product in every circumstance; there are plenty of grey areas about the environment too - but that's part and parcel of living on a planet of 6 billion humans and as such I just try to minimise my own impact as much as possible.

 

Men should avoid eating soy as it contains estrogen. http://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/soys-negative-effects

The page I linked contains potentially triggering pictures and headlines, just so you know.

 

The same applies to dairy too.

http://www.metaboliceffect.com/hormones-in-milk/

 

Interesting article, Clarity. I'm trying to eat yoghurt instead of milk or to add my standard breakfast mix(muesli, godji ,cranberry, quinoa, oat and dried fruits) to pomegranate juice. But I should warn you. When it comes to pomegranate juice you've got to be careful because it contains a lot of Potassium, so you shouldn't drink that much of it. But I think you already know this. Hehe

 

I didn't see this earlier, but I think most of the information is readily available online.

A book I found very interesting was the 80/10/10 diet - which, even if you don't follow the fruitarian lifestyle gives some interesting insights into how our bodies work and the types of food we digest the best.

Another book I've had recommended to me, but not read is The China Study.

Here are some links for anyone interested, and I really don't want this to seem preachy because I know that food is a sensitive issue for most people:

http://www.vegansociety.com/try-vegan/why-go-vegan

http://www.veggieboards.com/index.php?page=great-reasons-to-go-vegetarian

Some videos. I'm not going to post any animal abuse type videos up, as this doesn't seem the place for it. However, these are both pretty interesting...

Fat Sick and Nearly Dead - one man's journey into juice fasting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mS0YA465ts

Got the facts on Milk - documentary about the health effects of dairy consumption:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbGb04BpO_o

 

I would think some nuts or seeds would have b12 but I guess I'm wrong. Anyway I would think nuts and seeds would be good for a vegan diet.

 

No, there is no B12 in nuts and seeds.

Different people absorb B12 in different ways, but this is pretty comprehensive: http://www.veganhealth.org/b12/plant

 

I haven't quite made up an opinion about Clumsy, but his radical views on ancient literature and ideas were certainly frightening in the 21st century. Seems to my like he had a rough past, and felt particularly strongly about certain ideas.

Anyhow, it was only a matter of time.

 

@any moderator

please close all the threads where clumsy was involved. delete his extreme dangerous mindset.

and ban everyone who is speaking about him or his techniques.

 

Why, monkotto? That's not how it works.

 

Thanks a lot for all the recommendations. Also, according to dairy products, what's your thoughts about goat milk? I've heard that goats can't be tamed as easy as cows thus their milk is of a better quality.