People keep saying it's normal

Yes, it happens all the time, even when I talk to my friends who are addicted to substances. And I know that abstaining from pornography and masturbation definitely helps me feel better, so I just ignore those who say it's not worth it.

 

Sadly, porn and masturbation are ‘normal’ in that everyone does it, but that doesn’t make it right. There are plenty of things in modern society that are ubiquitous and socially accepted that are actually bad for us, and this is just one of them.

Personally, I think masturbation is a natural activity, and by itself isn’t wrong. After all even animals do it. So long as it’s done with the right mindset and in moderation, I believe it can be both healthy and rewarding. Others here may disagree, but that’s my take on it.

The problem comes when porn is introcuduced. Porn is completely unnatural and distorts masturbation into an unhealthy habit. No amount of porn should be considered safe or ‘acceptable’. The problem is that for your average person, porn and masturbation are so intrinsically linked that to them they are one entity. You can’t have one without the other. That’s where the danger lies, in that way of thinking.

I’ve mentioned it to a few of my friends, mostly in abstract terms, and they were also kind of dismissive of the idea. It’s a shame but I guess it’s also expected. People don’t want to believe that their ingrained habits are bad for them, and they’re unlikely to have their mind changed by someone else. The desire to change has to come from an internal realisation. So if I were you I wouldn’t worry about what others think. If it helps you, that’s all the validation you need.

 

Yes sir! I heard today in radio program: "Seriously, someone thinks M is some kind of problem" (laughing).

Yes, they can joke about it. They do not live my life and face the consquences. Addicts always try to justify themselves. Even in radio programs

 

I echo what @Omnitron310 said. You know whats good for you and what's bad so listen to yourself and don't accept other peoples excuses. I opened up once to a friend about the extremes i went to and this guy I found out was deeply ingrained with his porn addiction, he boasted about the fact he had 7 terrabytes of porn, his bedroom wall was plastered with porn that he printed out and basically said nothing wrong with porn as long as it's consensual. The bigger issue is as i have come to understand is that a lot of porn out there relies on the coerscion and control of women, porn stars don't often live the glamourous lives we are led to believe and they suffer with mental health problems, drug abuse etc. Not all of them i'd admit, but a high percentage do. This person I spoke to is a loner, smokes weed all day and watches porn every day and obsesses about amassing the biggest collection of porn, he has no girlfriend is malnourished and has mental health problems and he can't see how his porn habbit is getting in the way of him dealing with his demons. I'm grateful that i got out of this mindset. Don't end up like I did when i was at my worst and don't spend your life in denial like my old friend does

 

You can have some satisfaction in the fact that by giving up PMO, you’re becoming a better version of yourself. It doesn’t matter what society considers normal or not. The effects of porn on the brain are scientifically proven to be harmful, so if you don’t look at porn, you are already on the right path

 

Most people would rather deny a hard truth than face it. George RR Martin

Most people have lived their entire lives thinking it's okay. Only a few will discover the truth. Listening to them is only a waste of time. Listen to yourself and keep improving.

 

Watching porn is normal, biggest lies ever told.

 

It is "normal" since most people do it, but it's an unhealthy and shameful normal. Now I hear "it's normal" as a poor excuse to justify whatever someone wants.

 

Yeah, smoking was "normal" once.

 

It's normal in the sense that it's how all average, basic, and mediocre people spend their life.

When people don't have a strong sense of self, desire, or intention in their life, things like porn, mainstream media, and the opinions of others overpower and pull them into their reality.

Let them call it normal. It's not a word I'd want to use to describe myself or my life.

 

Porn is the new tobacco we all know its adictive and dangerous for our organs (tabacco longs) but people still accept it and let it be purchased at stores but you need to be 18+.

Porn is the same way 18+ and everyone can get it and we now its dangerous(brain).

The reason why tabacco isnt banned is because of the huge companies who own the business. Same goes for porn. Money makes the world go around.

Lets face it today people still believe tabacoo isn't adictive but it is.

articles:
https://fightthenewdrug.org/porn-is-the-new-tobacco/

https://fightthenewdrug.org/porn-industry-uses-tobacco-industry-tactics-to-hide-the-truth/

 

Masturbating to other people having sex is not "normal", but it is common.

 

It's not normal, people who say it's normal are addicted themselves. Often addicts don't know they're addicted.

What sort of a society have we become (the western world) when it's considered normal, hip and cool to masturbate to sexually explicit material? It's not something to admire! Why admire people who can't control themselves sexually?!

Don't listen to people who tell you that porn is normal, steer clear of people like this.

 

Desde mi punto de vista, creo que la pornografía dejó en mi cerebro imágenes y situaciones de abusos que marcaron mi vida.
Podría decir que me generó un entendimiento muy equivocado de la sexualidad real.
Gracias a Dios, hoy veo el daño que causa ver pornografía y espero poder mantenerme alejado de esas prácticas que en algún momento fueron indispensables para mí.

 

Age is not always a sign of wisdom, as much as older people have a lot of good things to teach us about life, they also grew up in an entirely different generation with different sets of morals, standards and socio political views. For someone in their 70's when they were growing up, things like casual racism were common and these days people are more empathic to the sensitivities of different races (broadly speaking) but one thing that I think has been lost from their generation is romance, wining and dining, wooing a lady and treating them with dignity and respect. I take a page out of my late grandfathers book when it comes to how to to treat women these days because he was a proper gentleman and according to my mothers best friend my grandad was very popular with the ladies, but in a good way. These days I think younger people in their teens and early 20's are into the hook up sex culture and view partners on the basis of whether or not they are a good f##k

 

Yup. Par for the course. Even PAs SOs often say the same thing.

 

Lots of good answers here. Totally agree with them.

Also, don't take your colleagues too seriously, and I don't know if it's that good to open up to them. Personally I would never ever do that.

Yeah, I'm currently reading Allen Carr's Easy Way to stop smoking (b/c my AP recommened it, even though I'm not smoking) and I'm really interested, if this method can be applied to PMO addiction as well.

So far the parallels are staggering.
Same applies for the cultural "brainwashing". Seems to be, that the majority doesn't see a problem with it (and is probably hooked itself) and ccording to the book and some staticstics I saw, over 50% of the males were smoking (about 1975). So sure the addicts (who don't know they are addicted) say it's not a big deal.

At least we know better now - so I think it's time to apply the knowledge we got from smoking to eradicating this pmo addiction. I will try to compile the information from Allen Carr's book into this thread https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.p...op-smoking-applying-the-method-to-pmo.155008/

 

It's simple, if NoFap makes you feel better, then what your coworkers say means nothing.