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Discussion in 'Loneliness' started by Mankrik, Jan 21, 2018.

  1. Mankrik

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    Hello, the situation is complicated and I have discussed it here on the forums before but I'll give the short version followed by a proposal for which I would like to hear some input.

    I am going strong on nofap diet exercise etc. I reset my counter but it was without porn and I'm trying to just reintroduce a little healthy MO now and then since my porn addiction is gone. I have a healthy perception of women thanks to nofap and there is one I am very much interested in.
    I feel a strong sense of mutual interest and we went on one date and it was fantastic. We have not been out since then because we are both in college at two different schools and over 100 miles apart. We still talk frequently via text though. She is a little hard to read sometimes, but I feel really good about it.

    So I have friends that go to her school and I'm off on Fridays. So I thought it might be a good idea to drive over there and crash will my friends but also maybe get a chance to hangout with her. Is this a good idea? Don't want to put pressure on her or come on too strong. I have completely honest intentions of just trying to get to know her and spend time with her. Should I tell her in advance and if so how soon before I go? I just want some input; my current plan is to go through with this and not overthink it. I really like her and feel like I can't stand idle. It also gives me something to look forward to/motivate me.
     
  2. elevate

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    How long does it take you to get to where she is and how often can you see her assuming that's what she wants?

    Talking through text doesn't really mean much. It's an interaction without any real commitment. Words lose meaning if it's not backed by action. If you two aren't consistently a part of each other's life in person, your paths will diverge more and more with each passing day. You're both starting new lives at colleges and will meet new people. People that are physically there.

    Even if it's mutual, you two will have good intentions at first, but it takes a lot of work to make a relationship work and even more work to make a long distance relationship work.

    Where do you see you two going if things go smoothly?

    Why not focus on meeting new people?

    You're investing a lot into her after only one date. If it was mutual, why aren't things made clear between you two before moving to different colleges? If it wasn't clear then, why would it be clear now that you two are over 100 miles apart?

    These are questions you need to think about before devoting years of yourself for a woman that is potentially unavailable to you and might not share the same level of commitment to the relationship as you do.
     
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  3. Mankrik

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    I appreciate this response and you bring up a lot of good points. It would take me about two and a half hours to drive there. I would drive there regularly since I have no Friday classes and have the flexibility if she wanted me to come. The good news is that her family lives in my city so she comes home relatively frequently. (3 months in the summer) I have also considered transferring to her university (not for her but for other reasons).

    I want to take things slow, and even if it goes smoothly I don't think there is any guarantee that it's a permanent thing. I care about this girl a lot, we have history, I really want her to be my official girlfriend one day. I think that's possible even with our situation.

    I will try to meet new people not even strictly romantically speaking. I'm already doing that. My heart's open but it's hard for me to find girls I really like. I'm not opposed to it necessarily, but I really like this girl and feel like something could happen. We never made this connection until after we went off to different colleges. She says she really wants to see me when she's back in town.

    I'm young and it's classic oneitis. I know I need to tread lightly and not get hurt here, but she has proven that she is right for me and I want nothing more than to be with her. I see this as a step towards furthering that goal.
     
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  4. elevate

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    Do what you want. Doesn't matter if it's wrong or right. No matter the consequences, if this is what you feel is right at this point of your life, then do it. Take responsibility of the consequences, but do what you want. You'll learn something from the experience no matter what. Trust yourself to handle whatever comes your way. Don't worry about words like oneitis. Just do what you want.
     
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  5. elevate

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    I also had serious oneitus in the past. Didn't work out, but I wouldn't erase that experience from my past. It made me who I am today and I love who I am. The outcome doesn't matter as long as you're proud of your actions.
     
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  6. Mankrik

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    YOLO. I'm going to see my girl
     
  7. Sananafraz

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    Sounds healthy to me, dude. Have fun getting to know a new friend!
     
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  8. Mankrik

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    So I went and visited her. However she went home that same weekend to see her parents so I kind of got unlucky with that. We did go on a date though. We were kind of awkward but I think we both had fun. I wanted to hug her but kind of froze, but she came and hugged me before we left. It made me happy. I wanted to see her again before i left but she was busy (which for her is a legitimate excuse, she's a physics major).

    Now I'm back home but I'm going to keep up convo via text and get over there again in a few weeks. This is such a long game and I'm trying to be patient. I fear that she will find someone else since we're so far apart. Overall I'm optimistic though.
     
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  9. Sananafraz

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    You’re just as likely to find someone new as she is. That isn’t to say either of you will. If it did end now, would the experience have been worth it? It sounds like it would have.
     
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  10. Here are my thoughts: If you have a bad PMO habit, and you want to spend time with a girl, you can and will often appear needy. If you have stopped PMO, and are moving forward towards your goals in life, then I would assume that nature will ensure that you don't appear needy. That's just my assumption though. Logically speaking, if you are living well, and you want to call a girl, or visit a girl, then it will probably come across without the appearance of neediness. But when you aren't living well, that's when we put girls off. You have to assume that God set this up so that under normal circumstances, everything should work smoothly. It's when we aren't living naturally, that things go hayware. In other words, you should be able to follow your feelings, doing what you want to do (like give her a hug when you want to, or say that thing you really want to say) and if your life is being lived well, then she should welcome your feelings, words and actions. Anyway, those are my thoughts on the topic.
     
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  11. Oh, and I'll say one more thing, something I think you already know. If you keep holding back from what you really want to do, like hold her, or saying that thing you really want to say, she will drop you for a guy who isn't afraid to take action. That's a fact. She is looking for a guy who will bend her over, pull her hair, and spank her ass. If that's not you, some guy will eventually come along and give her those things. Nice guys finish last. I believe that deep down you know this is true.

    The key to all of this is that you state what you want. You shouldn't ask for what you want. You should always state what you want. That's the key. Say: "I really want to give you a hug," not: "Can I give you a hug?" Another example: "I have some time free this weekend, and I'd love to visit you." Don't say: "Can I come visit you this weekend?" Do you see how stating what you want sounds masculine, and asking sounds effeminate and weak?
     
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  12. Sananafraz

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    I agree.

    I hope you decide to rethink this, brother. Consider the possibility that this thought comes from a history of excessive porn use.

    Your way of phrasing what you want is very straightforward. I like it. But you seem to be drawing a connection between masculinity and confidence as though they were mutually exclusive.

    You aren’t describing a healthy woman as she exists in every day life. You’re describing a sexual object as it exists in your healing mind.
     
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  13. There is a reason why 50 shades of grey was so popular. It wasn't guys with porn addictions who were lining up to watch it.
     
  14. Sananafraz

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    50 shades of grey is porn. There is a reason why porn is so popular. That does not mean you should act out what you see and read about without consent and intimacy. Fantasy isn’t unhealthy; nor is it the foundation of a healthy relationship.
     
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  15. Mankrik's Wife? ;) Sorry, I couldn't resist.
     
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  16. Mankrik

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    It would definitely still be worth it but she's all I think about and it would take time for me to recover from losing her. I dont think ill ever forget her. So far in my life she's my first and only love. This type of attraction is maybe
    I appreciate this advice. I planned on asking to kiss her the next time I saw her but know I'm going to say "I'd like to kiss you". I have conquered PMO but long streaks make me obsess over her even more. Cleaning out the pipe every now puts things in perspective for me. MO no P but I'm still trying to give it all up completely. I don't think I come off as needy but I'm just hiding it lol. It's not a matter of PMO, it's just that I am young have never kissed a girl and have had a crush on her for years and it's finally going somewhere so I can't help but be stressed and excited.
     
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  17. Mankrik

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    Lol let's hope this situation has a happier ending
     
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  18. Sananafraz

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    You won’t ever forget her. Relax and keep on doing your thing. You’re doing a great job for someone so young.
     
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    It’s good that you seemingly have a connection with this girl. My suggestion would be to recognize, if you haven’t already, that you don’t need a significant other in your life to be happy.

    Go with the tides of life. Don’t be afraid to take chances, but don’t be reckless either. Understand that if this doesn’t work out it will not be the end of the world. Ruminating about what is the ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ things to do and how they are perceived just complicates things.

    All in all, she seems like she’s interested in you, so I wouldn’t try so hard to be impressive. Be yourself - it’s got you this far.
     
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  20. Mankrik

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    I appreciate the responses. I'll keep this thread updated as events unfold. I expect to see her during spring break in a couple weeks.
     
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