Which is the most destructive between M and P ?

Yes, I think so. I can see a scenario here where you become so dependent on fantasies that being with real women will never be enough for you.

 

arrête P à vie et M pendant un mois ou deux, ensuite tu reprendras M que quand tu seras en erection total et avec seulement deux toi mec

 

The real issue isn’t the use of P unfortunately when it comes to erectile dysfunction. The truth is that your hand does a far better job at providing friction than a vag could ever hope to achieve, and as a result if you let things continue like this you may find that when the time comes you won’t be able to enjoy the real thing

 

I believe P is worse. But because i never suffered from problems like PIED i dont really have the experience to be sure

 

Hmmm, In my opinion and case, m.. ion is worse then p...
I found very hard to stop watching, and m.. ion I am clean 70+ days.
P... is everywhere today in music, movies, almost it is impossible to avoid naked bre..., as.., vag ...
But m... ion is battle with yourself.
When you win, it gives you better selfrespect, and you become more honest with yourself, you don t need to hide bad habit, it disapear.
Set in your head that you ll quit m..ion, and even if you fail ok, but if you have in had that you ll quit, one day you ll quit.

Hope you understand my english, if you have question I ll give answer as best as I can.

 

I have to agree. Sadly. But eventually I came to enjoy masturbating more than actual sex, even though sex was often what I fantasised about. I had a difficult time staying erect during sex with my girlfriend.
Perhaps even worse, is that you can keep masturbating when you're not fully hard, but sex is almost impossible when you're only half way there.

 

Edging is the absolute worst for me. Hours long sessions of looking at porn or psubs with that constant drip drip drip of dopamine? If I could PMO in five minutes, I'd probably prefer that to the damage I've done via long viewing sessions.

 

Ok, you should calm down, try not to think about it, after some period you'll get over it.

Maybe try with meeting new girls, for example in shoe store, clothes store, just chat with them, ask about clothes, shoes

 

E man, ok, I read few times your post. This is why this forum is existing. Do you go out, training some sport, do you have any hobbies?

 

P, because just watching it is harmful and it turns into a habit before you know it.

M in itself isn't that bad, but when you need P to M it becomes a problem.

When I'm PMO'ing I'm looking up P all day long with no intention to M, it's just to get a quick dopamine rush or a quick edging session.

 

E john27, very interesting, so you are opposite of me, for example I am 90+ days without ''m'', but I watch ''p'' maybe 3 times a week (+ - 1 time).
I have questions:
- can you explain ''it's just to get a quick dopamine rush or a quick edging session.''?
- how to make post on nofap?

 

E FrenchWinner, sorry for asking some questions on your post, I answered on your post as well