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Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by barnyjay, Oct 23, 2014.

  1. barnyjay

    barnyjay Fapstronaut

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    Hello all. I have a question and welcome everybody's comments. I want to conquer this pm totally. But my question is if having sex with my wife will set me back. I have such an urge to have sex which I barely had before. But it frightens me. Will having an orgasm make me want to fap again? I want ny wife to enjoy me and I want to enjoy her. Just hope it won't get to the old stuff again.
     
  2. AndrewWaterhouse

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    My wife and I have had sex on my 90 day challenge before. I think it's perfectly healthy, so long as you don't have an orgasm. I know what you're thinking right now, and it's probably along the lines of "that's impossible". YOU CAN enjoy sex, without the after effect of orgasm. Your brain is hooked to the orgasm, not so much the sex aspect. At least that's how it is for me. Hopefully this is helpful in relieving some of your questions on the matter.
     
  3. barnyjay

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    Hey Andrew.
    Thanks for the reply. I can see your point. My brain is hooked on the orgasm wonderful good feeling. Sex can be so enjoyable even without the orgasm. But very hard to do. Just don't know what to tell my wife why I will not orgasm. I know she usually orgasms 3-4 times before I do.
    So let me see what can bedone.
     
  4. CR7

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    Have Sex with her and have a Orgasm.. No problems in my eyes. It won't set all your gains back to day 1.
     
  5. Raiden27d

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    PIV is different orgasm than PMO and shouldn't be feared.
     
  6. Dad

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    I think that sex without ejaculation is a great solution for people in committed relationships. However, both partners should prepare for that before that encounter so there is no misunderstanding. This makes it much more possible for the male to orgasm without ejaculation.
    See "The Multiorgasmic Man".
     
  7. Jac39

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    THanks for asking this... I haven't been able to bring my wife in on my fapping issues, feel like it would crush her, so I started my no PMO challenge and it is so so so freaking difficult and on like day 4 we had sex, and Whammoo.. I realized my urges and strains for PMO intensified the next day or so like crazy. When i look back i realize that the morning after was almost always a time to go for it PMO.. Is this like breaking a drug addiction and just giving myself every three day jolts of the drug..?? I feel caught in 100 percent wanting to break this thing that has held me back for 15 plus years but also no wanting to divulge it to my wife. Advice? I feel like an elephant is sitting on my chest for hours every day- the pressure i feel under to PMO..
     
  8. MrFox

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    Hi, I am going through the same thing right now, I'm attempting to quit PMO which is up to today been a success.

    Now what happened was this, I can usually go quite a while during sex and I have always been in control of when I orgasm but last night I was having real problems holding it back and it was way to sensitive and I though I would blow every 5-10 seconds and it was so frustrating. I know this is linked to quitting MO, anyway I finally gave up and climaxed and there wasn't a good enough build up so I was feeling a bit depressed after it.

    Now this is the interesting bit, I went to bed with my gf to sleep at about 11PM and I usually wake up around 7AM but instead I woke at 3:37AM and all I could think about was how crap I preformed and how weak I orgasmed. And after about an hour laid there staring into darkness I finally decided to MO with just my mind in bed next to my sleeping gf, I was chasing the orgasm because of the failed sex, but the worst part is in the morning I PMO'ed because I still didn't get that orgasm I was seeking and I still didn't get what I wanted. This really beat me down today and I need to reset my tracker. Now I'm not willing to give up on sex, sex with my gf is the number one reason I am quitting PMO!

    Good luck with your journey!!
     
  9. MrFox

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    I also can't bring myself to tell my fiancé, she would absolutely take it the wrong way. I feel you man!!
     
  10. tomtom

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    I've had sex with my wife during my nofap journey and I haven't had a problem with that. I have seen significant changes during the 60 days that I now have behind me so at least for me the hard mode hasn't been necessary.

    I haven't told her what I have been doing (or not doing recently) but I guess she can tell that something has changed... For a few years it took me easily an hour to O with her if I could do that at all. Now my erections are much better and I constantly O with her, in single digit minutes. I'm not sure if I want to be this quick but perhaps I'll learn to control it a bit better.
     
  11. Karegador

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    As one married man to another, I find that sex with my wife helps. Every time we have sex I discover sensations that I never felt before. I've also found that I am getting closer and closer to cumming during sex because my "fella" is recovering from all the abuse he has taken over the years, thus my sensitivity is increasing.

    That said, you do need to watch out for the chaser effect. Mind you, I do not know how it is for you but as alluded to above, I have never cum from sex. This being a result of masturbating away most of my penile sensitivity. So for me, on occasion I will find that, after sex, I really want to masturbate. Largely due to a feeling of blue balls. I have learned how to resist the urge but it can be a bear to deal with.

    So it is up to you. For me it actually encourages me to stay clean because I can feel myself getting closer to the point where I will O from sex.

    Best luck to you.
     
  12. Dad

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    I'm having the same issues. Nice erections, but higher sensitivity and anxiety about premature ejaculation.
    Major chaser effects after even satisfying sex.
    I think that we all need to relax a little. Not be so hard on ourselves.
    On another, but possibly related note, I have recently read "The Multiorgasmic Man". I have been experimenting with non-ejaculatory masturbation. I think that it might help me get control over my ejaculations again.
    Warning- this technique is essentially edging, where you quit before ejaculation. I maybe lucky in the fact that I don't need mental imagery during M. I just enjoy the sensations without the sexy visions. It could be because I've been practicing meditation for a long time, and I can empty unwanted thoughts from my mind.
     
  13. NoFap_FTW

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    I think what is meant by the O [in PMO] is not to orgasm over porn or orgasm out of random? Sexual intercourse doesn't reset your goal back to Day 1, nor does an orgasm during intercourse.

    PMO is: porn, masturbation, orgasm - sexual intercourse doesn't break your streak because you are not masturbating or watching porn - you ARE having orgasms but in my opinion, it doesn't reset your time because it's orgasms during intercourse, not by watching porn. You are being turned on by your wife thus having an orgasm. However, if for some reason someone watches porn or looks at a nude picture and orgasms over the picture then that breaks the rules and that person is back to Day 1.

    So, in my opinon [and probably others], an orgasm during intercourse doesn't break your streak. It is PMO - not PMOI [the I is intercourse].

    "Will an orgasm make me want to fap again?" No, I don't think so. You're having intercourse with your wife and what could be more better than intercourse with your wife? I know I can't really speak because I'm only 17-years-old and not married at the moment nor have I had sex before - but during intercourse I don't think you would even come close to thinking about it!

    Rest assured you can have intercourse and an orgasm during intercourse without breaking your streak because the orgasm that breaks your streak is a result of looking at porn videos or images of nude.

    I hope I have answered your question and you don't have any worries left.
     
  14. napionder

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    Give it a try. If it sends you into PMO afterwards, then maybe stop having sex for a while. Tell your partner about nofap, she'll understand. Maybe try to find other ways to be intimate with her.
     
  15. Karegador

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    Keep in mind that there is a significant difference between watching porn and fapping away, and sex. That former just involves dopamine with zero emotion. Where as, the latter is an emotional experience. So your brain is acting differently in both cases.

    So it is ok to engage in the latter because your brain is being stimulated differently.
     
  16. MrFox

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    Unfortunately I experiance incredible urges to PMO after sex, it is fustrating that this happens because my number one motivation is to be able to have satisfying sex with my fiancée with full sensation and to O in a normal time frame and not 1 hour later or not at all! And to also want to have sex!

    I have actually noticed that when I stop PMO I want sex more than I can get which also causes a relapse, this happened today and it is killing me.
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2014
  17. Karegador

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    I understand completely. I'm in the same boat.

    When I first started I kept relapsing after sex. I have gotten to a point where that doesn't happen because sex is getting more and more satisfying. When I do find myself suffering from the chaser effect I make sure to hang out with my wife, even if she is working on her art or writing her fan fiction. I'll pop in an episode of Babylon 5 or some other thing. If the chaser effect stays with for days, I just fill my mind with reminders of my goal, remind myself that I'm doing this so that my wife will get to feel the same satisfaction I get from getting her off. I also do breathing exercises I learned when I studied Aikido.

    Those things combined, tend to get me past the chaser effect. Now I find that my new battle is dealing with a five day hump. It seems when I hit day 5 temptation is at its strongest.
     

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