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P HOCD or denial - please help

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Mikesharkd341, Mar 11, 2018.

  1. dragonaire

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    I dont want kids, i dont want a wife, i want a husband/boyfriend. And even if i were straight i wouldnt like the idea of having kids anyways... so, am i abnormal?
     
  2. in terms of evolution and continuation of the species.. well... yes! That doesn't make you evil or a bad person. Perhaps 'unusual' would be better?
    Is it 'abnormal' to have a porn problem and your sex desires screwed up by it? Yes. I have one which I am trying to fix. Not trying to judge anyone in that sense. My abnormal problem is a bad one yours is just 'abnormal (unusual)
     
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  3. Mikesharkd341

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    Op here, i have been raised as an orthodox christian, i have never been comfortable with anyone being gay and whenever my life was normal and i was doing normal things outside and was still at school i never had anything for guys nor would i ever had one thought even when i was drunk to think of any guy for more than a friend however 'cute' or 'hot' they were, so since i always had a bit of an ADD, i always lost interest in things pretty quickly, and thats the same way my porn interest waned pretty fast between genres, but whenever i had changed genres from i always returned to heterosexual porn and content, and i always loved and fantasized girls, even if my porn consumption varied some of the time. I never liked guys irl, i quit school about 3 months ago and i had self confidence and anxiety issues, so i was in a confusing period of my life when i first smoked weed and had big family and life changes, and i had just been through a traumatizing period where i was very sick and was very scared, so when i first started getting panic attacks amd had symptoms of anxiety i got even more scared because i never shared my feelings with people in the past and i had predisposed fears of weed and i thought i would be in a state of anxiety for the rest of my life, and i felt that i had fucked up my life after having promising dreams as a child and i thought i wanted to be a millionaire and thought i knew everything i didnt believe mental ilnesses like anxiety disorders even existed cause i never been exposed to them even thought my brother had been through a 'phase' i thought i was immune to sadness or not having control of my thoughts, then as anxiety came on my life just like that all of my opinons and convictions of what i thought i knew suddenly i had doubt in, i started doubting everything, had no real feelings anymore all i had is a fog, i started crying feeling depressed i woke up tired every day, and i was always scared to say any of this to my mom and dad, i now think that i would never had doubts or questions whether i am straight or not if i had talked to my parents the first month of anxiety, but i allowed myself to dwell on it and i was scared not saying still anything about being anxious every day, and now i am beyond repair and will be in questioning for the rest of my life if i dont do anything about it. That is why i want to believe that this is reversible and it is a porn problem and too much fear and anxiety mixed together with loneliness pushing me in a phase or a 'test' in my life. I never want to feel that i love someone from my same sex more as more than a friend, and i dont want to think that being gay is moral or is natural, i just want to hope that if what i associate to be the root of this problem; anxiety and loneliness, if i would get rid of anxiety and loneliness maybe this questioning would disappear and i would return to being comfortable as a hetero male to procreate with a wife, and lead a normal life.
     
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  4. Hey man, why would you think I would give a fuck about what you think about me or anything else? You mean nothing to me! I have a wife and kids who all know about my homosexual side and love me more than anything in the world - that is all that matters to me.
     
  5. It's all about you, isn't it?

    this, of course has nothing to do with what I posted. Since you cannot refute what I said you result to this...
     
  6. this is not uncommon - porn can warp your tastes in many ways, please see the links i posted from yourbrainonporn.com
    and try to do something to relax - if you are orthodox Christian try the jesus prayer meditation.
    There are a lot of guys here who have gotten into the same mess because of porn and other stuff. The fantasies are probably symbolic of something else, especially since you're not attracted to guys IRL, as you say.
    There are a lot of journals with HOCD, sissy porn, fem dom and other stuff here - the good news is that when you take a complete break from PMO AND fantasizing - for say, 90 days, you should reset.
    Also work on your relaxation and building confidence... many report as they do this the desire for this sort of stuff fades away.
     
  7. The odds are very good that if you were heterosexual before porn, you'll be heterosexual after you lay off the porn. This HOCD is very commonly posted about here.
     
  8. By the way, smoking weed gave me bad anxiety years ago.
     
  9. Mikesharkd341

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    Thank you everyone for the responses and help. Yesterday I was seeing my reactions outside and I always look at girls like it's a natural thing and have an inner desire for them, but since all this happened I never get an erection for anything nor do I think I have a libido, I just have this weird groinal feeling all the time whenever I am around guys or girls. This morning when I woke up I had an erection thinking of a girl and I had a happy feeling, it lasted for like 5 seconds then the question came in my head and the doubts and my stomach just twisted and all i am feeling now is just anxiety.

    All my anxiety symptoms came to me like a month after I started smoking weed, and I still have them full strength accompanied by this bullshit questioning myself and my identity.
     
  10. moonesque

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    You see the issue here, you are growing up in an age where identity is becoming increasingly disintegrated in society and the access to things like porn take us further and further away from our core.

    You must find your identity, I doubt you are homosexual. All men and women are not 100% masculine or feminine in their mind. However, many times we feel destroyed and anxious and fragmented. I believe you are going through what it means to be you and how that relates to the masculine. Sometimes our homosexual thoughts may not even be like what others consider “gay”, there are differences in what we think, not to be graphic but different things we “think” of could mean different things about ourselves and where these thoughts are coming from and why. I believe it is rare that these homosexual thoughts with men are just naturally happening for you and just appear from thin air now. Why did you seek porn in the first place and what about yourself are you scared of? or see as a weakness? Seek yourself and what you know, not what others and social pressures are telling you. And of course, I hope you are doing well. Hail!
     
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  11. dragonaire

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    Bro... if ur watching gay porn at ur teenage years STOP IT!. Ur gonna get confused bc ur brain is growing up... If ur not gay and ur watching gay porn in ur teenage years ur brain will absorb it. Luckily (unlike what happens with real gay men) that "gay attraction" resolves itself (and thats why its now common hear the "its a phase" thing).

    Just leave porn altogether... watch this video at the minute 14:24

     
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    According to the video, guys that have become gay by watching gay porn at their teenage years stop being gay after they leave porn
     
  13. Exponential Power

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    Allow me to repeat myself: You are not gay. Your story sounds like a classic example of porn addiction escalation. Seriously give up porn forever and you'll be great. I have been free of a 20 year addiction to gay porn for nearly 8 months. It is astounding how much porn affects sexuality. I thought I was gay or bisexual for most of my life but I no longer fantasize or have sexual thoughts about men.
    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?threads/145-days-heres-my-story.147453/
     
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  15. Mikesharkd341

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    Thanks for the answers again everyone.
    I just feel an incredible sense of regret and generally bad feeling most of the time. Sorry for the long posts but I feel like I want somebody to understand me and give I want to relate to somebody and hope that this goes away.
    See the thing is, I didn't have doubts in being straight for all of my 16 years of life, or lets say before or during puberty, I saw girls and I always had feelings towards them, as I said I started with exclusively straight porn, fantasized and always loved girls, but I became a shy kid during puberty due to my family's financial situation and other things and was always different than how other kids grew up(i was insecure and a shy kid and I still am and I think this is why I this is happening to me).
    I encountered trans P and G P when I was masturbating as a kid, but I was always disgusted, put off by it and my preference simply was straight P, but as years passed and porn became a routine for me, I discovered 4chan sometime when I was 14, and I was bombarded with shocking and different porn than what I was used to, I browsed it all the time and as time went on, I became desensitized to a lot of things, first I was disgusted by generally gore content, then I grew to not mind it, I was disgusted by non straight content, I grew to not mind it and ocasionally fap to it, but I always felt shame after it (i never looked at masculine or typical gay content, I always looked at the more feminine ones, and shotacon). As time went on, sometime when i was 14 I had my first kiss and during that time I kissed many girls, and I enjoyed the making out, I got a girlfriend for 3 or 4 months, she was beautiful and I had a good time but I never felt real love, maybe it was distance, maybe not enough time, but what I want to say is, I dont know what real love is, I cared for my girlfriend I was jelaous I protected her, i also desired sex with her, but now when I think back on it I think I couldnt connect with her more because I still was a great porn user while being with her, so I relied on the next time I had PMO, but I never really saw this as an addiction or a problem or something that would cause me problems in the future. Anyway, I also noticed that I didn't like this non straight content when I was socializing a lot or when I had a girlfriend, but only when I was lonely and had too much time to myself.
    I never had doubts in my sexuality until I started questioning it during a very confusing period of my life (a period of constant anxiety and depression and insecurity in myself which I am going through, and I feel so guilty and have regret because I keep thinking to myself if I never smoked pot or if I never browsed 4chan I wouldnt be here and would never have this confusion about my sexuality or have any anxiety, because I always thought I was a strong kid because of what I went through when younger and never had a thought I could be this vulnerable or this weak to my thoughts.
    I want to hope that doing nofap for 3 or more months will rid me of this confusion and thoughts, I want to hope that some latent homosexuality or some bullshit like that hasn't been awoken and now I have to accept a different identity in my life, I don't feel in place and I don't feel right, I was more homophobic when I was younger but I've learned to accept people who were homosexual and let them live their lives as they wish, but I never thought I would become the thing I feared of becoming as younger kid, I want to hope that I am not becoming this though and that I can revert, but I just don't know what to do except nofap and maybe socializing and going back to school ( I quit school and thats the period my anxiety and loneliness increased).
    I keep doubting and thinking that Im in denial or something and because I questioned my sexuality thats why Im gonna become gay now, and Im really scared and feel really bad for it, I just dont want to be this.

    Sorry if I bothered you with my long ass posts but if any of you guys read until here, I want to thank you and tell you that this forum and post is my only reassurance now and the people here who have the similar issue I just want to relate to them and believe that I still am what I thought I was and that I can revert this, but I have doubts all the time man and I hate myself for it.
    Thank you again guys, I really appreciate it.

    Edit: also, since I started questioning and all this bs, I rarely get erections when I look at girls on instagram lets say, where as I would have gotten one for as far as I can remember my name, I get aroused but then I just doubt myself, and I think but what if Im this and this, my stomach then just twists I cant eat anything every day, and then every guy I look at I just question myself and feel really bad and feel tingling in my groin, and when i am relaxed I notice that I dont have any stomach twisting and I can get rock hard by girls and I almost have desires to PM again, but im scared if I keep these thoughts up I will eventually be ok with being gay or bi and that girls wont attract me anymore, I feel so bad when i think of this scenario.
     
    Last edited: Mar 14, 2018
  16. Ok there you have the key. You are not gay, stop obsessing /worrying over it, do the things recommended here, work on doing things that will make you more confident - having a skill, being great at something - be so focused on that that you're not sitting around brooding about this stuff.
     

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