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The toughest thing about dating...

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by Deleted Account, Mar 29, 2018.

  1. ...there's so little human element invovled in it anymore.
    You swipe in a certain direction to indicate whether you'd be willing to talk to someone. Then you exchange messages with no way of knowing how your message was received. Its a message on a page so can they really tell if you were trying to be funny, smart, this or that?
    That's not even the toughest thing....the toughest part is the waiting.
    Have they lost interest or are they just busy?
    That's the part I struggle with. Nothing worse than waiting by a phone.
    How do you guys deal with it?
     
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  2. I know the feeling. You get fixated on one person, waiting for that next response and then it never comes. You gotta lower your expectations. Know that the odds are stacked against you. It's a numbers game, so it's best to message as many possible matches as you can find and hope that you can keep one interested long enough to meet you in person. Leave your emotions at the door. There's nothing more to it.
     
  3. Very badly, I'm afraid :D
    Funny you wrote this just as I was thinking this same exact thing...
     
  4. Haha I'm not evening waiting for girls from dating sites to message me.

    One is super hot/cold with her responses (I met her through work)
    The other is... Someone who's in that awkward stage where you haven't established whether you're interested or just friends.
    I'm not sure which girl is stressing me out more lol.
    But I'm not a fan of complaining life can be beautiful if you let it be.
     
  5. Lol a quick update ... Both Respond at roughly the same time bahahaha

    Christ ones a psycho
     
  6. This is a fairly easy one to manage and I admit I'd been there myself. The solution is to simply date more and actually "talk" to women, dating apps are just one avenue to find a potential mate. If you're "waiting" as you say I'd say you are probably hoping for "that one" you've been eyeing or actually talked back at you to respond, easy fix is to simply message another girl while you're waiting for the previous one to text / call you back (i know nobody calls anymore, its part of the problem honestly).

    Here's a few tips / tricks that worked for me specifically for online dating.

    1. Men hunt, Women wait

    As the man you're expected to be the first to initiate contact, the only problem is every other horny male is doing the same thing. Women with online profiles get hundreds of messages a week (especially if they are young & decent looking). On average you can expect less than 10% response rate from your initial messages because they (women) have so many options available. Things to keep in mind:

    2. Women understand the commodity they possess that every man wants (sex). You have to understand most women already have their shield defenses at level 10 from the very first moment of contact. Try to understand their perspective and motivation to find a mate (men).
    Men are attracted to (Youth, Beauty and Sex)
    Women are attracted to (Romance, Love and Security)
    Now before you get too deep into being a "Nice Guy" understand dating is a sexual transaction. I've always remembered this basic fact. You are meeting someone to see if you both would mutually want to fuck each other. I don't care what anyone says, human beings are sexual creatures at their base level, this is the real question you're both asking yourself on a first date. (Men just usually say YES to anything that's warm lol)

    3. "Hey whats up?", "Hi There", "How are you?" are probably some intro messages you could see yourself sending a potential mate, I did an experiment on OKCupid with three catfish profiles of three different women from different age groups (20 years Old, 35 Years Old, 55 Years Old). These one-liner opening messages are the predominant method most of your COMPETITION uses to initiate contact. Chances are if you are doing the same you are simply in the dog-pile and don't stand out a damn bit. Try very hard to draft a specific introduction tailored exclusively to the women you're interested in, this brings me to my next point.

    4. READ HER FUCKING PROFILE. Guy's that don't read a girls profile are shooting themselves in the foot and passing up some of the best material to draft your intro message with. Pick something specific about her profile and question her about it, if she likes hiking or horseback riding ask her about the last time she was able to get out and do those types of activities. (Bonus: Most guys don't read a girls profile so it's definitely a nice gesture on your part that you took the time, they can tell!)

    5. Don't Copy / Paste an intro message and SPAM every single woman you see. Guys might think this is being productive, efficient and increases their odds but it doesn't, women can spot these fake intro messages from a mile away and whats worse you may even end up messaging a couple of ladies that know each other in real life. They compare notes! (Happened to me, its real)

    6. Put a freaking shirt on. Don't expect a selfie with you flexing to get much attention, after speaking with tons of women this "type" of profile usually gets an automatic NO because it puts you primarily in the group most women are trying to protect against. See rule #2. The best photos you could post along with your profile are ones taken by someone else (no selfies). Some suggestions are you doing an activity you enjoy doing, a full-length body photo, a nice headshot etc. Avoid intimidating body language such as crossing your arms, flexing or looking directly head on into the camera..

    7. Leave a little mystery in your profile. "Hooks" are items in your profile that give just enough information but would require you to answer more specifically. Give them just enough information to draw them in and invite them to ask you more.

    8. Never say "This online dating thing", "I have no idea what I'm doing", "I thought I'd try this". Online dating is not a taboo any longer if these items are in a profile women will give an instant NO because it lacks confidence in the medium THEY are using to find a mate. Don't act like there is something wrong with online dating, the women you're after are using it!!!

    9. Don't tell her how pretty she is. At least initially, let me explain. Every guy thinks this is what a woman wants to hear and on some level, it's true, however; keep in mind rule# 2. Woman are always on guard when it comes to giving their commodity away (sex). If you focus exclusively on complementing her looks she will think that's ALL you can see or care about. I never tell a girl during first contact (text, messaging etc) how pretty I think she is, not on the first date either. If you really want to score some points tell her how much you appreciate the effort she put forth getting ready for you, compliment the great job she did on her hair or makeup, these compliments should start with "I appreciate...."
    "Wow, look at you. I appreciate all the effort you put into getting ready or me tonight"


    10. Be Honest, like REALLY HONEST. I've not found one single trait that is more valuable than radical honesty, women absolutely love it when they can tell a guy is being honest. And before you think twice about it, yes tell her about your pornography usage. Most everyone is going to come to a screeching halt on this line and maybe I've just been an exception but I can tell you honestly when I was dating a few months back I'd told every woman about my nofap challenge. Not a damn one ghosted or told me to get lost.

    I got tons more but I could be here all night typing a book.

    Anyways I hope you can find something helpful in all off that.

    Peace!
     

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