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I hated you all -My Book of Forgiveness

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Citadelle, Mar 26, 2018.

  1. Citadelle

    Citadelle Fapstronaut

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    Hi, thank you for your nice words, the last days re extremely hard for me, so I needed to remember that I used to be fighter. With forgiveness, I think its still harder to forgive to ourselves like to others, isn't? Also when someone hurt us we know it well, but sometimes it tooks years to see how we alone hurts us.I destroyed myself very sucesfull years coz this whats happened me.And I just dont want do it again. All we are battling with our demons..Have you the biggest problem with forgive to you or someone else?
     
  2. Couldn't you have started with an easier question. :D

    That is a tough one. Thanks for the challenge. I sat here for a while thinking about how to answer that. The answer is, probably both. I find it hard to forgive others, which I see as being due to insecurities in myself. I'm not sure I forgive myself for that weakness.

    Part of the reason for my nofap decision I guess. And you've now started a new and positive thought process in my brain. I will ponder this more.

    Stay strong. I'm cheering for you. I want to see more of this forgiveness magic. You've already taught me a thing or two.
     
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  3. Citadelle

    Citadelle Fapstronaut

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    People saying me all my life, that I have talent to give them question, which they dont wanna hear;) so you should be happy that my English is horrible , so I m very limitated ;) now serious, if you will want to speak about it more, maybe in private msg, I m here. If I understand it well, you are seeing how your weakness that other was hurted you ?Then my next question why you seeing it in this way.Also in my 35 I still can not get it, why all man are in obsession that they have must be a strong all the time.Also I think its very important to try stay in balance and honest. I have experience too, that in many situatons when I was seeing my self like very weak, other poeple was "wtf you are very bravery ". I started really hated myself after I was cheating and it tookes me lot of time to understand that it didnt ao much with me like with him insecurities etc. Also I was a lot that " if I never loved you" or now with my" boyfriend in pause "or how call it..lots of time I was blaming myself with " if I was attractive like before, If I wasnt so sick, If I was so skinny like were.." but also "if I never believed you, it was mistake.." bullshit ! Why I hate myself coz I love someone.. Or I believed...yes, Im not saying its easy or simple , I m not Budha I can not forgive all in one moment,but in every moment I can try.
    Anyway I think that your nofap decision is great, even if I dont know your story.You deserve it. and worth for it.Stay Aweeesome !thank you again for all your words " I give you the light of Eärendil, our most beloved star .May it .."
     
  4. TheGoldenEra

    TheGoldenEra Distinguished Fapstronaut

    Yeah man :D thankfully I'm better now. Naaah sorry not a big fan of either I'm afraid. I turn 18 soon and have to prepare for uni so I hardly have anytime to myself.

    That's a great quote btw, I think I'll make that my status in due time. :p
     
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  5. Lol :D

    Your English is better than my Romanian. I don't know any Romanian, apart from what I accidentally know.

    You want lil' ol' me to answer that huge question on behalf of all men? :eek: Alright then. I don't know if it's hard wired or cultural, probably some of both, but I do feel the need to be self reliant. Not only self reliant, but someone that many other people can also rely on.

    Regarding my family, and day to day food, water, shelter (I won't claim to be the provider of air): Multiple people rely on me. I am not able to rely on anyone but myself. I was a single parent for a lot of my child's life.

    To be in a position to do that I had to become educated, I worked my way through university while supporting a family, and build a career.

    All that requires some degree of emotional toughness. The world doesn't stop for me to have a bit of a cry for a while. If I ever did feel too weak, it would not only be devastating for me, but for my loved ones, in a very real survival sense. That is a fear for me. Not so much for myself but for the people who rely on me.

    I know it is the same for a lot of women these days. All I can do speak from my perspective.

    How does that feed into forgiveness? At a basic survival level, the universe is not going to forgive me if I falter. I and other people will be, I don't know, out on the street, back in the forest hunting boars and eating berries. Actually, that doesn't sound too bad. :emoji_thinking: I'm going to buy a tent and a spear just in case.

    I could go on, but I think my inability to articulate is probably a good sign that I have to define the issue more myself. These things are all related. I just don't have a clear picture how yet.

    Exactly. That's why your, or anyone else's, forgiveness seems like a magic power that you have but I don't.

    Of course it's not, so it's back on me to try and develop it.

    Whatever my current level of awesomeness is, I will attempt to maintain it, and maybe even improve it. :D

    Thank YOU @Citadelle It is my pleasure to share words with you.

    [Tolkien Nerd]O Elbereth! Gilthoniel![/Tolkien Nerd]
     
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  6. Citadelle

    Citadelle Fapstronaut

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    ...this story..so close to my soul..also is good to have one job through day and on in the night, coffee n cigarettes.. and think thay you are Superman or something ..but I know how its , was almost 16years single mum, still I m .It was maybe easier coz I had just me and my son for responsibility , not more people and I guess like I really failed.
    But you are Important man, too.And tgats nit just pathetic..I did everything 16years that my son will have food and place for living and that he will be happy.And also my friends and people around me which needed helps ,I completely forgetting myself through these years and now my son has living dying mum which is not able to take care abut basically things like money fir rent etc...I guess its like on the plane, when all of you needed a mask, but you need a put it first on your face..coz then can happened that you will have any power to give it on your beloved face..But I m pretty sure that you know all these things without me.
    ..into the wild.. I want a caravan !but it must looks like train heh coz I hate cars and love trains;) yeah that not sound bad!
    Have to define the issue more myself...

    Its seems we are very similar in some ways, always good to find one.Nice to meet you .
     
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  7. Nice to meet you too, @Citadelle :D The best I can do is offer you an internet handshake. Actually the best I can do is fly to Romania and shake your hand in person, but I think that's a bit over the top for a handshake. :emoji_taxi: :emoji_airplane_arriving: :emoji_flag_ro: :emoji_trolleybus: :emoji_motor_scooter: :emoji_hand_splayed: :emoji_motor_scooter: :emoji_trolleybus: :emoji_flag_ro: :emoji_airplane_arriving: :emoji_taxi:

    I'm still looking into this forgiveness wizardry you've introduced me to. Thank you for that actual, practical, real world inspiration. My imaginary book of grudges and gripes is getting too large to manage. When I've made actual progress I'll put updates here.

    I hope you're staying tough and strong. Not good to hear about your health, financial, and family problems. Did you look into the crowdfunding thing? I know very little about it.
     
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  8. Citadelle

    Citadelle Fapstronaut

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    I forget say, Slovakia, not Romania it's nearer?hope that yes ! made me smile with this and legends says that there is not better way how to start a day ;) and I believe in legends and fairytales ;)
    I understand that..I have also mew challence to understamd that something its really over after new lies and will need start to forgive to this person .Neverending story !;)coz people hurt you again n again..but like Bob Marleu said "Everyone is going to hurt you , you just need a someone who worth for it "
    I have a trouble with asking fir help coz all my life I had to doing everything alone but I see that I havent any another option,I was looking at gofound org, hope will able put my story there today.
    Wish you a lot of power.I also drcided today thst after many years start meditate again.i m doing yoga on the chair for month and its very helping,sometimes I cry through coz emotions. Also is helpfull try to look on yhem like humans beign and for their reasons and insecurities..this is a mad world...
    But we from Hobbitland;) we need to kee going ,man,coz~one light in the darkness~
     
  9. @Citadelle

    Wow, where did I get Romania from? That malfunction is a sign I need to do some meditation. I worked with someone from Romania once, so maybe my head went there. I have not spent enough time in default mode lately.

    Next step in my forgiveness journey. It looks legitimate because I don't understand most of it. The main message is there is some science suggesting that forgiveness is good for the brain.

    Once I've convinced myself it's a good idea, at some point in the future I might be willing to let all those sons of bitches off the hook. :emoji_sunrise:
     
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