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How do you deal with the shame & guilt of hurting loved ones?

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Ollie_8, May 17, 2018.

  1. Ollie_8

    Ollie_8 Fapstronaut

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    Six weeks, or 44 days since my SO found out, and after battling for this long she's cut all contact. I appreciate her for wanting to stay in touch for so long, and I fucked up numerous times in the six weeks by not being empathetic enough, being defensive, getting upset, not being there for her enough etc. For me the discovery was a massive, massive realisation that I've been in denial for years not just about the things I felt almost powerless to (the porn addiction, depression) but about the things I could and should have changed (selfishness, feeling entitled to sex in our relationship), and as a result I've spent a great deal of time actively working on myself through various things - nofap, therapy, lots of truth telling with family and friends, reading feminist books, books on misogyny-culture, Pornland etc, but I've not done enough to actually help *her* from her perspective. Granted, I was trying, but I didn't do enough.

    So, it's over, and now I'm just left with the enormous shame and guilt of what I put her through. How have people here dealt with this? I guess in theory I could forgive myself for poor attitudes and bad behaviours if I'd been single, but I can't forgive myself for dragging her into my life
     
  2. NF4L

    NF4L Fapstronaut

    The reality is you have to make the effort and focus on fixing your problems before you can help your SO heal. Part of this is letting down the defenses and guards you’ve put in place to protect the PA. You have to do away with the self preservation, lies: whether of omission or white, and have vulnerable and honest communication. Perhaps that is part your SO is fed up with. While it may seem honorable to do what you can to help them, it is disenguous if you are still struggling with the addictive tendencies. You’ll have to learn to forgive yourself in order to recover, part of that is admitting your flaws and taking responsibility for your actions. I wish you the best of luck on your journey.
     
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  3. Ollie_8

    Ollie_8 Fapstronaut

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    I'm here because she found out - I was in complete denial and couldn't confront my problems. But I was actively trying to recover for both myself and for her. Now she's cut contact I guess I'm just recovering for myself. And after a initial period of lies and trickle-truth I've been completely honest with her for about the last 30 days, but I think the damage had already been done because she now can't believe anything I say, even now that I have nothing left to hide. I'm not struggling with the addictive tendencies at all, (I genuinely feel repulsed by porn and the temptation has vanished for now), but I can't make her trust me again. I think she needs time and space alone. If that means never seeing me again, I'll be devastated but understand. Hoping that won't be the case but who knows. I'll keep working on improving myself with everything I have
     
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  4. Haien

    Haien Fapstronaut

    It is a tough lesson, but sometimes all we can do is learn something from it, grow, and become a better person. Just take the time to work on yourself and see what the future brings in it's own time.

    It sounds like you are making great progress though in widening your perspective on things, and learning to be more empathetic is an important skill that so many lack.

    So stop beating yourself up, and move forward towards a healthier you.
     
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  5. Ollie_8

    Ollie_8 Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for your detailed reply! Yeah I'm very aware I didn't start this journey the 'right' way, I'd give anything to have had this realisation before I met her so I could heal on my own, rather than hurting her or anyone else in the process. And you're right - trying to 'make' her trust me is wrong and I don't blame her in the slightest for not being able to.
     
  6. Ollie_8

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    Thank you. I have to say, the 'learning to be more empathetic' part is the thing that's scaring me most, it's mostly the self-loathing talking but I just keep worrying that I'm too self-centred. Do you have any advice, any books on the subject etc.? I guess I'm struggling because 'being an empathetic person' seems like something you shouldn't need to be taught, I feel dirty & ashamed admitting that I need to work on it.
     
  7. Selfishness is just a part of the addiction. It's much of what addiction is about, and being empathetic doesn't fit in there anywhere. However, as you fight the addiction and move further along in recovery, you will become less self-centered and more able to be empathetic. It's part of the process but takes time and a true commitment to your recovery. A great book to help you understand addiction more clearly is called The Addictive Personality by Craig Nakken. And, to really help you understand the betrayal trauma that your SO is experiencing, you could read Your Sexually Addicted Spouse by Barbara Steffens and Marsha Means. Both of these books provide a wealth of information that is helpful to many in recovery, both PA and SO.
     
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  8. Ollie_8

    Ollie_8 Fapstronaut

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    Thank you! I'll check them out
     
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