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My husband broke me

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by IamGold, May 19, 2018.

  1. EyesWideOpen

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    You are 100% wrong about that.
     
  2. TryingHard2Change

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    Alright .. I'm done. You are obviously not trying to be helpful in any way.
     
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  3. TryingHard2Change

    TryingHard2Change Distinguished Fapstronaut

    And congrats .. I've posted over 1,000 times on NoFap over the last 6 months -- you are the first person that I have ever reported. You should feel special.
     
  4. danhk

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    And for what reason, mind you did you report me? Because I disagree with you? Because you seem to not be able to properly address the points I make? This is actually hilarious.
     
  5. danhk

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    Outstanding naivity :) Don't worry they won't need to ignore anything else from me.
     
  6. andyandy7

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    God. Im so furious right now I don't even know what to say. It's so unfair!!! Just leave him!! A husband like that is worse than shits!! So selfish!! If i were you, I'll definitely need to smash some stuff or sth. You need to be freed from him right now. Bring your kid!!(if u have) go somewhere to chill and talk to them and.. you know.. quality time.


    Just forget about him for a moment. You'll live without him.

    Selfish-brat!!
     
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  7. TryingHard2Change

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    You aren't making any points...your point is to disrupt and disturb--and it's at the cost of a very hurting wife (which is no laughing matter).

    You are very clear that you think there is nothing wrong with porn. Funny, I'm pretty sure NoFap is a place where people come to STOP LOOKING AT PORN (and help others do the same). So why are you here? If you think there is nothing wrong with porn, you don't belong here.

    ..

    Regrading your last ridiculous statement:
    "we can't say for sure if her attitude towards PMO was 100% clear to her husband"

    I asked you to read the OP's two posts on NoFap .. I'm guessing you didn't. So let me compile a few of her statements for you (WHY I'm doing this .. I'm not sure -- it is 100% clear to me that you don't care at all about the OP):
    * "I feel so broken inside that i don't think I can handle this anymore"
    * "I feel like I'm trapped in a cage with no way of escaping"
    * "the way my addicted husband has betrayed me so profoundly is unbearable to me"
    * "The porn addiction and the way he kept it secret for years"
    * "The worst part is that for all these years he made me believe he did"
    * "If I make the mistake of trying to open up and express my hurt feelings then, It's a s**tstorm"
    * "It's been like this for months now and it's this that has broken my heart"
    * "It feels so overwhelmingly hurtful to see his face tighten up in anger"
    * "It's like he's encouraging me to jump from a cliff and promising to catch me but when I'm making my jump and I'm already falling, i see him turning his back and starting to walk away"

    * "Yes, he has been sober for about 6 months, as far as i know. I do believe him, but of course I can't be 100% certain. 8 months ago he found NoFap and told me about his addiction. For what I've seen, he's been very motivated to recover." <== it just came out today that he has in fact been PMO'ing for the past 8 months

    * "I started writing it 8 days after my husband dropped the bomb that shattered my world." -- dropping a bomb..sure sounds like this SO didn't give her husband permission to view porn ("good, healthy porn" in your world @danhk)

    ..

    Anyway, feel free to actually read all of the OP's story/posts. But to do so would mean you actually care about the OP, and from everything you've written -- it doesn't appear to me that you do. You just like stirring the pot and causing trouble. THAT is why I reported you.

    It's really sad because we have an extremely hurt wife here ... and all you are doing is minimizing her pain, all the while stating and re-stating that there is nothing wrong with porn.
     
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  8. EyesWideOpen

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    Pretty sure he has empathy for her.
     
  9. EyesWideOpen

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    That's fine, I just don't understand why you jumped all over him. As an SO, I appreciate seeing empathy from a PA. That can be a difficult step.
     
  10. andyandy7

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    Are kidding me? How can you not feeling anything after reading what she said? Dude come on. She's so broken. Her man is so selfish n horrible. That makes me ill to see a man behave like that especially to his own woman . I thought this site is only some kind of discussion forum about how to overcome theirselves. I didn't even expect to see ppl have this kind of story. bet there'll be more out there.

    Okay I'm new to these NoFap things. Is feeling emphatic for someone's condition wrong in this site? Come on. But if it is. I'm sorry okay.
     
  11. IamGold

    IamGold Fapstronaut

    oookay... Just can't deal with this right now. I wanna say that what I have read here today, on this thread I created to be MY LIFELINE during this VERY DIFFICULT TIME, has added great insult to my injury. And that's all I'm gonna say about that. So just no. Stop.

    Thank you. I appreciate this so much.

    Anyway, Here's what's been going on.
    As i wrote, yesterday I confronted him about his defensiveness. I started by asking him to tell me what are the underlying reasons behind his anger and he gave me an elaborate answer, which I accepted as the truth for the time being but still didn't feel like it was enough. At that point I didn't know he was lying, but what everybody had been sayin to me me here had planted a seed of doubt in my mind and that doubt hadn't yet gone away.
    We continued about our different issues surrounding that topic and it led to me telling him how and why It's so important for me to know the whole truth. I told him how I need all the information to be on the table, so I could start healing. An how I'm concerned that there's still some things I'm not aware of.
    Finally what I said appealed to him, and then he came clean.

    At first it felt like the ceiling had just come down on me and I felt the full weight and the pain of it. And then I got so incredibly angry at him. I felt this mad hatred for him where no matter how you talk about it it doesn't help. So i grabbed a pillow and started pounding him with it until I was out of breath. Then I couldn't do much else but collapse back and cry for a while.
    (and to those who are concerned: He is ok, and If I would have noticed he wasn't in any way, i would have stopped. He understood that I was hurting, and took it calmly standing tall)

    I set some boundaries right then and there. He will stay sober from now on, take polygraph tests every six months, he will stop whining, he will let me grieve and accept my feelings, he will accept his responsibilities, and he will be completely transparent.

    I told him that this is the time it happens, and if not, I will find my happiness elsewhere.
    I made it clear that I'm not giving him a chance, it's there If he wants to take it. And I'm not staying with him because he wants me to. I'm staying because I want to. Because it's the most convenient option for ME.

    He has accepted everything and hasn't been defensive. This morning we met with our new therapist and the session brought a lot of clarity and calmness to our situation. Right now I feel content. I have been understood and my feelings have been validated for now by my husband. I'm also relieved that I finally know the truth and now have an explanation for everything that went down during those 8 months.
     
  12. Ridley

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    I think this is a really good point, but I should also mention that I have high hopes for the future. Porn isn't what it used to be. It used to be something you would have to go to a store and purchase if you wanted access. High quality and high-speed streaming porn bring things to a whole new level, and I don't know if humanity was prepared for such a change. When I was in high school (a decade ago), I remember my teacher in health class spent a day where we talked about porn. It was a relatively high-level discussion, and it probably barely scraped the surface, but my point is that it was mentioned, and I think people are starting to wake up to the dangers of internet porn. I have hope for future generations. We are the generation who got the short end of the stick with internet porn, but the positive thing is that we are now armed with the knowledge to educate future generations. Hopefully, they won't make the same mistakes that we did.
     
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  13. Ridley

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    I'm just saying that there's hope for future generations. I don't think things will get better overnight, or even that we will see our hopes manifest into reality in our lifetime, but I am saying that things are changing. They are changing slowly, but that's just how some things are. It took us many generations to agree that slavery was wrong, it took us many generations before women had the right to vote, and I think it might take many generations before we collectively understand the risks of internet porn.

    I appreciate your efforts, and one day, when society has come to a better understanding of the dangers surrounding internet porn addiction, people will look back and admire what you've done. Even if you just make the difference in the life of one person and help them to understand about porn, you've made a difference. All those little differences add up, and that's how change happens. If I'm ever a parent, I vow to do my best to warn my children about internet porn, and I know that I will be speaking from experience when I do so. That's how we change the world. It all starts with you, and I'm glad you're aware of the dangers of internet porn.

    Please, don't talk to me like that. You don't know what my experiences are. You don't know what sorts of things I've seen, what kind of childhood I had, or even my name. I've been respectful to you by not assuming anything about your particular situation, so why aren't you giving me the same respect? When I said "we are the generation", I was referring to the group of people who were alive at a time when internet porn was not easily available and then transitioned into a society where internet porn was easily available to almost everyone around them. I am a member of that group, and I'm assuming that most people over the age of 20 on this forum are in that group as well.
     
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  14. Ridley

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    It sure does. Again, I appreciate your experience and I'm glad that there are people from all sorts of different backgrounds waking up to the reality of internet porn.
     
  15. IamGold

    IamGold Fapstronaut

    @GhostWriter once again, you have given me alot to think about. And definitely some really good advice. Like you suggested, I have to process this for a while.
     
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  16. andyandy7

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    @GhostWriter you don't need to apologize. It's me who needs to. So I'm sorry. Sooner or later somebody will say the same things to me if I can't keep my mouth shut.(or my fingers) I don't mind that you're being direct to me, bc I was wrong, the way I say things is horrible. And honestly this woman subject is too heavy for me, and I don't know how to handle this thing, then you're right, the last thing they need is the rambling of an ignorant young kid. But I do feel sorry for her. I can't help but feel how hurting she was, and idk what to do. so I'm glad someone did that to me which open my eyes wider. so I hope I can be better next time. I apologize for everything. And thanks for your advices, I really do appreciate it. thank you for everything mate.

    Have a good day!
     
    Last edited: May 23, 2018
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  17. IamGold

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    Thank you for asking. I'm feeling as well as can be expected in my situation. I can't say that I would be feeling better now than a couple of days ago, but I have found some clarity. Now I've been able to slowly start acting like a functioning human being again. Not all the time, but it gets easier little by little. This community and comments like yours has made me feel warmer and safer. I've felt understood and that's been very important to me.

    I've evaluated most advice given to me critically. I try to do that with all new information. I aim to find the reason or motivation that drives a person to pass on the information that they are, and that helps me to assess the value of their advice to me personally. If I feel that the person has biases that prevent them from being objective I usually take their statement with a grain of salt. But even if that's the case, they still might point out some things I've overlooked. Some "advice" though, is not advice at all, but just an attempt for that person to feel fetter about themselves.
    Having said that I appreciate what you are saying and I think it's important that it is said. I have been in a vulnerable state and I have shown it openly. My critical thinking could have momentarily been so impaired, that I would have regurgitated anything and everything. No one here is responsible for my (or anyone elses) healing process, or how I choose to take their advice, but I do believe that there has to be some sense of accountability for those who choose to give it.
    I'm not saying that I haven't appreciated the people who have done their best to help me. I'm so very grateful for them to have sacrificed their time and sharing with me what they have learned on their own journey. I honestly don't think I would be as sane as I am right now without their guidance for both me and for my husband.
     
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  18. IamGold

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    Yeah. That idea is in the trash now. I had the knowledge all along about polygraphs not being reliable. I just didn't want to know. I wanted it to be something I can rely on to be the source of absolute truth and that's what i stubbornly chose to run with.
    I recently read a quote in another thread: "My sixth sense was my favorite superpower" and I feel it summarizes my thoughts quite well. I used to think that I was able to just know if my husband was lying but have since lost my trust in my intuition. Being so blatantly lied to and not realizing it took it away from me. The thought of not being able to tell was unbearable to me. It still is.

    This made me so angry. Not at you, but at this situation I'm in. I didn't want to hear this. I was having a moment where I started to feel a bit more confident after the shock. It felt good to see that I was still the strong woman I consider myself to be and setting those boundaries fueled that thought. It was my way of trying to regain at least some control over my life and reading your message burst that bubble. I hated that I had to face feeling weak and powerless again. I now realize that what I felt was not genuine strenght. It was only blustering. I'm now in the process of setting more realistic boundaries and consequences.

    Yes. I think the word of today is: denial.
    Thanks, that felt good.
     

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