Is looking at porn a relapse?

Agreed.

 

Show your brain who's the boss !! Try cold showers, they're a very good way to overcome urges !

 

I'm da boss lol

 

Hell...if I even go so far as to skim through Facebook for bikini pics I count it as a relapse. No point in kidding myself anymore. I’m here to get better.

 

Ok sir
I was wrong
Edging=relapse

 

so does looking at pictures count as relapse

 

If it's pornographic, yes !

 

Anything you know that will excite you is bad. You will have to change your lifestyle.

I remember I had to stop using Imgur ( its a image/meme board). Even though I had mature mode on, I was sub consciously scrolling in vain to hopefully see one lewd pic.

Its a real fight

 

The struggle is real, BRUH !!

 

I just tried it. I searched for generic pornography through a browser and after scrolling through some of the pictures, I became aroused when I saw a fetish of mine. However, I also started out by looking picture by picture, slowly, with no arousal. Also, I saw a homosexual .gif and it curbed my arousal. I would say that an "overload" (as with image galleries or with a video) is the trigger for most PMO responses, and that the actual type of pornography (in categories -- straight versus gay, for instance) matters.

If by "relapse" you mean a recurrence of previous behavior, then, yeah, there is no way around it. I would say that is a hard definition, though, because I just experienced the arousal that would mark a PMO state without moving on to edging or masturbation to porn, so that I do not feel as if I reverted to the activity I have outlined as negative for my reboot.

You have decided that the chemical processes linked to immediately viewing pornography counts as a relapse. I do not. A relapse is seeking pornography and then utilizing its stimulus to reach orgasm. The definition is subjective.

I admire your dedication, however, and think you are well on your way to overcoming your obstacles.

 

Relapsed. I give up...

 

I don’t care.Like I’ve said before, why the hell would you watch porn if you’re on NoFap anyways ? You’re just shooting yourself in the foot, that’s foolish !

 

Don’t give up man, you’re missing out on SO MUCH !! Trust me, YOU CAN DO THIS ! Be strong, you’re too soft dude that’s why you keep relapsing ! You have to be a fucking WARRIOR ! C’mon man I’m counting on you !

 

You should be a motivational speaker or something lol

 

Thanks a lot of good posts in here. Helping me stay clean today

 

Well, you would watch porn because you have a problem with controlling PMO. It would be because though you have motivation to quit, you are weighed by other factors from doing so.

You can think what you want about what is foolish, but viewing porn is no universal reason to ascribe a relapse.

I've tried to force a sexual reaction to porn in the past only for my body to be completely unresponsive of the stimuli in front of me. The sensation and reaction can always be different. The reason people ask "what is a relapse?" is because it is not always obvious. Someone else in the thread attributed a relapse to feelings of guilt. The definition is subjective.

I do not know why you argued the point previously if you don't care. It seems counterintuitive.

 

What I don't care about is all your bullshit excuses to edge and not do NoFap seriously.Anyways, porn, by definition, is MADE to arouse people, it's an EXPLICIT representation of sexuality ! That's what it is, period.The reason some weirdos like you are not aroused by viewing porn is because they fucked up their brains with dopamine. What was once arousing for them is not arousing anymore 'cause they've got used to the dopamine shot in the brain that the porn gave them.Therefore, they need a more HARDCORE version of porn to get the same dopamine high and that's why PMO addicts end up jerking off to all sorts of weird shits like fetishes, gangbangs, transwomen or whatever.So, what's going on is that you're not aroused by "normal porn" 'cause you are used to the dopamine it gives you and now you come bitching at me sayin' that relapsing to the P of PMO is not a fucking relapse.You're addicted to PORN, that's why you keep watching it (and that's why you will jerk off to it sooner or later 'cause viewing it alone without touching yourself ALREADY doesn't give you enough dopamine).Son, I've relapsed enough times and did all sorts of edging possible, I know how PMO addiction works.Here's some shocking news for you: We are ALL human, our brains work in the SAME fucking way and PMO addiction works in the SAME fucking way for ALL of us.Stop thinking that some of us are some aliens that can somehow edge to PMO without having the same negative effects as others would.Again, you're not the first human being on this planet who has matured through life.Mistakes has been made by others (including myself) before you did them.So YES watching porn (which is the "P" of "PMO") while pretending to do NoPMO is foolish and YES viewing porn is therefore a fucking Universal reason to ascribe a fucking relapse.PMO is called PMO for a reason, it's the fucking P of porn, the fucking M of masturbation and the freaking O of orgasm ALL TOGETHER.If you did either one of this three or this three all together, you fucking relapsed.And what do you think you're doin' while watching porn anyways ? You think you're being a very noble and loving human being while doing that ? You think watching porn is sexy ? Hell no, whoever watches porn is just being a vile, nefarious, stupid, animalistic, lustful, selfish, beta, weird pervert/weirdo who's ruining not only his brain and body but also his heart and soul ! Grow up and do NoFap, you'll only become better !

 

You keep repeating that, but I am not you and you are not I. Thus, there are at least two brains in the universe that do not function the same way.

I skimmed the rest of your reply, and it might be that you are projecting some of your personal emotions toward the minds and intentions of other people. I was simply telling you about the experiences I had, and how it is a complex issue because of the degree of variety in human perception. Excuses and motivations are relative, and definitions pertaining to a reboot are subjective. If I implied anything it is only that the people on this site have complex issues that will manifest in definitions and in actions differently. I know the reboot is a simple process in theory, but there are always uncertainties when readjusting your life in a way you are unfamiliar with.

I don't care about your moral irrationality; I was speaking to experience. You talk about maturity and edging and so on, when all I commented on was viewing porn without sexual stimulation.

Subjective.

 

The hell with you.I'm just talking to a fucking wall.Keep fucking up your life with porn or whatever, not my problem.

 

Doing anything that releases Dopamine whether it's P or M or O is a relapse.
End Of Story.