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Got nudes. Did i relapse?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Youngman21, Jun 25, 2018.

  1. Youngman21

    Youngman21 Fapstronaut

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    Yestereday i got 3 nude pictures from a girl on facebook messenger including 1 showing her chest wearing a braw. I looked at each picture for around 5 minute's. I later decided to delete both the conversation and pictures. Do you see this as a relaspe? BTW im a few days away from a 6 month streak.
     
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  2. Quexx

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    If you looked at it for 5 minutes, I would probably count it as at least a reset. Depends a little what your goal is. Because your glaring at those pictures definitely had the same effect as porn does, in your brain. You got high on dopamine which is why you lingered.

    That feeling of the rush, your heart pounding. And especially when you didn't stop viewing for so long. Definitely reset in my book. Relapse, I don't know. Did you MO to them? Isn't relapse when you relapse into old habits? In this case, it was a one time thing? Not sure what relapse is to be honest, different people have different definitions for it...
     
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  3. Headspace

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    5 minutes is indeed quite long, but considering the circumstances: Man, be proud of yourself you were able to just delete these pictures! Not everyone would have been able to do this! Have my respect. You banned the danger. Now you just need to stay on track, ok?

    But... where did this conversation come from? Did you provoke sexting or something? In this case I would may be still count it as a relapse. In case it wasn't I'd say that you didn't ask for the pictures, they just happened to be there, and this isn't something that happens every day, so it's relatable you looked at them for a while. I don't know if I had done any better. As a rule of thumb: The most important aspect when asking about a relapse is to what extent it resulted from your own, controllable actions.
    There are different definitions. Some people say that it is a reset when it is a one time thing and a relapse when it becomes a slippery slope and happens more often (or a binge). In my post, I didn't make a difference between reset and relapse (and I barely do in general), because 1. the counter doesn't make a difference so far as well and 2. because a reset has always lead to a relapse for me, eventually :confused:
     
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  4. Youngman21

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    I did not MO to the pictures and yeah it was a one time thing . So you think i should start back to day 1
     
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  5. Headspace

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    You probably didn't read my post yet... have a look at the questions I asked!
     
  6. Youngman21

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    Thanks for responding. It all started with here asking do i have a big uno. I did not reply then she called me "bae". Still never replied because been to busy to see her messages. She sent me a pic of her vagina to get my attention.... I asked her to send me a pic with her face in it so i know its really her. Eventually she just sent me 3 more pics with her fingereing herself... Long story short i asked her to send me one of her ass she never did. After that i just said fuck it and deleted everything... Also i sent her pics too. Almost six months would suck to go back day 1
     
  7. Quexx

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    Definitely reset, IMO.
    Not only did you seek the situation out by engaging in her sexually tensed conversation, but you also lingered for 5 minutes (!!) on the pictures.

    Like Headspace wrote, very strong of you to delete the pictures and not MO to them or afterwards to the memory of them, so kudos to you. But still a reset in my book. Everyone's book is different so you'll have to decide for yourself obviously. Most important thing during this recovery process is to stay true to yourself and your own beliefs.

    Remember that you do this for YOUR sake, not ours, not for some counter. So it is your decision :)
     
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  8. Headspace

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    Well, this is definitely actual sexting. The only question left is if you consider sexting a relapse or not. I would - as it is no better than porn, may be worse, depends on the person.
    Yes it would, but this is the problem with just counting the present streak... your progress is not gone because of what happened. You have been doing awesome, and you are still doing awesome, just as I said. Your progress is not a number. We just use the numbers to keep an overview and to motiavte ourselves. Ok?
    What I do is that I keep a "reset calender" in which I mark all relapse-free (=normal) days green, all relapses red. May be you can do this retrospectively for you? Until now, the whole or almost the whole year should look green. That is awesome! Don't worry too much about the one red day. Just put it there as a reminder and so you can tell yourself you have been honest to yourself and taken the consequences of your actions. Then go on and make the second half of the year just as green as the first one!
     
  9. Youngman21

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    True, im not going to reset my counter just see it as a lesson learned. No more pixeled stimulation. Btw this guy named goldjacketluke said he watched porn a HANDFUL amount of times within his 300 or so day streak and he did not reset at all. Watching porn is definitely worse then looking at a few nudes for a short time
     
  10. Quexx

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    Good for you!
    But remember, don't compare yourself to others. Stick to your own progress and what YOU want from this reboot :) Stay strong and keep at it! Good luck
     
  11. If you do not reset your counter, you have not learned the lesson.

    Yeah, I happened to see that vlog last week. And when he said that, o_O I said to myself, well he hasn't done 300 days then.

    Do you think that a drug addict / gambler / alcoholic / can do whatever it is they are addicted to and say, I am still sober? No! So, you have your answer. I mean, how bad does it have to be before you reset your counter?
     
  12. Moon Shot

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    Just what I was thinking. We can't use another person's resetting criteria to define our own, nor is it any kind of justification not to reset. Whoever this gold jacket fellow is, it's entirely up to him, to not reset, but IMO, it is indeed a reset. Watching pornography, or pornography substitutes for even a minute should qualify as a reset. Otherwise, it defeats the whole purpose of a reboot. But, to each is own, and if by resetting you will definitely get discouraged and go back to PMOing, it's better not to.*

    *I have recently been corrected by another user. No, it's not alright not to reset. This will only encourage the addicted mind to find creative scapegoats from responsibility. In the end, the counter isn't a big deal.
     
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  13. Moon Shot

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    However in this case, I'd reset. Sexting for 5 minutes with what intention? To have some fun, or get sexually aroused? What you do is up to you, but just ask yourself something... Do any number of days guarantee your progress? As @Headspace says (Edit: Went on to read a hiding post later on) and what I have understood, in the end it's a whole lifestyle change, an entire paradigm shift.

    All the best.
     
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  14. so, i have to reset my counter if I watched porn? :(
     
  15. JJTorres

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    I watched a hot woman face and back of another in a corona beer tv ad where it was set on the beach (concert). It was for a second, does that count for a reset?
     
  16. TheKushagra

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    i don't consider it as a relapse,because that was not porn neither you masturbated
    so keep moving
     
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  17. Is watching porn against your goals? If so, why even have a counter if you're not going to use it as a tool to measure your progress?
     
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  18. JJackson

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  19. Well , usually my goal is to avoid the M. But here people say if I watch P , I am done! :(
     
  20. Youngman21

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    Now if i went on google and looked up four pictures of naked chicks and stared at those for five minutes i count that as a relapse . Me wanting to see the girls body who i might potentially meet is normal. Plus i deleted the photos so it shows i wasn't looking for a fix i was looking to see if the girl sending me nudes was hot so i could pat my self on the back. About 2 days from 6 months and still going strong!!!
     

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