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Just F***d up: Am I back to square one?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted, Dec 27, 2013.

  1. Deleted

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    Long story short:
    I watched a liveleak on the abuse that goes on in the P industry and I was not expecting it to have the actual P scenes in it (albeit they blur it) ended up watching it on Christmas eve and couldn't get it out of my head while I slept, I ended up having a wet dream in my sleep whilst that video was still ingrained into my head. I PMO'd to that same liveleak, then PMO'd another 3 times to some 2 softcore videos ( soft enough that they could be watched on YouTube) and 1 straight up hardcore scene.


    Bearing in mind that before I was 120 days clean with a fully rebooted brain.
    I was just worried if I had lost all my super powers and if I am back to sqaure one. Anyway here is how it affected me:

    1) The usual 'post fap shame' feeling wasn't really there as it was when I was addicted before my reboot although I did have a sense of lingering regret and thinking to my self "there really was no point in doing that it did nothing for me"

    2) My speech was unusually slurred afterwards and I was less verbally articulate than I usually am.

    3) Me and a Friend went out to approach women in the mall, I used it as an opportunity to see how my relapse affected my confidence to approach and it was pretty much unaffected, although my voice was a bit weaker as the girls were leaning into me a lot more because they misheard me because of my slightly sloppy speech ( see reason 2)

    3b) Eye contact seems unaffected

    4) Also I have not seem to have lost the super power where real women become a hell of a lot more attractive/appealing after you have reset your brain from PMO addiction.

    I am aware that ultimately it is my call my I just want the opinions of other fapstronauts as a reference point, did I undo my progress?
     
  2. Mark

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    I don't think you've undone anything? You seem to be using the experience to gauge how far you've come and that has to be a positive. I would just suggest you be here now today in this moment as much as possible and keep moving forward.?
     
  3. Mark

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  4. Jason2

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    Yes, you undid everything. To say you haven't undone everything is just people trying to be "nice", but you know what? Being "nice" is often cruel. It would be nice, for example, to let a little child eat as much candy as he wants, but it'd be cruel to let him do so. Addiction experts say that it doesn't matter how long you were clean; if you fall, you've reset EVERYTHING, and you're back at square one. Now, you can draw on the wisdom of what you learned from your clean period, but as far as the feelings and habits of addiction are concerned, you've undone everything.

    The question is: do you take that first step again and walk away from square one to square two and so on?
     
  5. If that you lost all your progress is yours to decide. Depends on what did you want to achieve. However the fact that you masturbated to almost non-sexual material is somewhat disturbing. To me a reboot means that even is someone bumps into explicit material, even porn, he can resist the urge to fap immediately, because he only want to have orgasm with a real girl.
    Plus you watched porn intentionally, which is one of the symptoms of the addiction. So for completely different reasons, I too suggest to start again.
     
  6. Mark

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    Its so easy to find a needle of negativity in a haystack of positivity and is all a matter of perception and perspective and as we each occupy a unique position and scale within this vast universe and we are all free to make of that 'view' what we will I sincerely hope you choose to view it from a perspective that enables you to continue moving onwards and upwards...:)
     
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  8. Deleted

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    OK I will admit your comment shocked me a bit, can you elaborate on what you actually find disturbing.
    I don't recommend that you watch the liveleak video, but it was pretty much overtly sexual it included straight up P scenes.

    The videos on youtube may not have been straight up hardcore scenes but they are sexually suggestive anyway.

    To put this into context:
    I am 18 years old
    I was 120 days into my reboot
    I eat a healthy diet and workout
    I have never viewed any triggers until I relapsed a couple of days ago.

    I always went with the line of thought that a reboot means I have returned back to normal (pre PMO discovery) sensitivity, but seriously I am so sensitive that I sometimes begin to get a boner if I am close to girl who is really attractive, I don't hesitate turn my head and approach if I see a hot girl walk by.
     
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  9. fappingendsnow!

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    hi, well, I think you are every young, with alot of hormones etc, so just give it another go, you learnt from the experience, and it is helpful to me as a reminder of why I am doing this.sometimes i think, does this really matter? what's the harm in PMO'ing? it is an addiction, but it certainly isn't anywhere near the worst one I've had.But then I think, i am going to do the 90 days, with no porn, or fapping. I really want to see it through, after that, well I dunno, we'll see. I just deal with today.

    I think you should be proud of the 120 days you managed.
     
  10. William

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    Daenxi, sorry, all I can say is learn from it. I had to learn that almost every sexual image triggers me. I can't look at softcore stuff, I can't look at bikini models, I have difficulty with a lot of G rated music videos, Victoria's Secret is a no no. That is just the nature of my brain; it's looking for a reason to give me that dopamine rush. I'll give you a "for example". I sort of have started watching the Sopranos on HBO. It's in reruns now. About 25% of the action takes place in a strip club. Also, the main character has a lot of sex, that while not actually X rated, is fairly explicit. I have to close my eyes during those scenes. I cannot indulge them. It's something as simple as that that keeps me from triggering.

    Get back up on the bike.

    Good luck in your journey.
     
  11. Here's a great video that clears up some of the confusion about relapsing. It depends on how much work you put in beforehand and how much you just binged. Based on the huge gap you built, preventing any binge and keeping on the path will be the best.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSFKKpwcGc0
     
  12. Mark

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    Just watched that, perfect for this thread, good call Kosh32!
     
  13. drizztsaysno

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    I wouldn't say right away you've undone
    everything. That's not always true. It really depends to what extent you fell and if you caught yourself soon enough. A reforming alcoholic hasn't reset all his work against alcoholism if he goes out and drinks then once he's sober again decides to work harder against it and does. Yes the urges will now come harder because you've opened up the door again to the addiction. When I relapsed I only masturbated once that day because I put on the brakes to that runaway car and said no. Now I'm back on track. It's like falling down a mountain after climbing so far. You might have rolled to the bottom yes but depending on where you are in your journey or how strong your will power is
    you easily could have caught yourself just further down the mountain than you were. Just never give up and keep trying. I hope this makes sense. You may be battered and bruised from your fall down the mountain but now you know to be more careful. You've also learned something that can trigger you. Some people have to give up looking at all kinds of images because they act as triggers.
     
  14. I don't quite get one thing. What do you call a "trigger"? For me it means something that turns me on. But that still doesn't mean that I have to masturbate. Yes, I get a boner, but that's it. It will go away. I didn't MO and I didn't watch porn, no harm done. I was horny for a while, and that is maybe a bit uncomfortable, but still not as uncomfortable as a lot of other things.

    I've seen that video and it was disturbing, not triggering. For me. I see that we are not the same, so maybe I was a bit quick to make assumptions. Do what works for you best.
     
  15. drizztsaysno

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    A trigger is something that brings forth desire or temptation in this case. And it can be mostly subconscious like seeing someone nude or partly nude. And each person has different things that cause this. It's something that can start a chain of events or thought if that makes more sense. I've read and met people who have stopped looking at certain magazines because there were ads in them with cars and sexy women because it made their minds go in a direction they didn't want them to go. And yes it is something you can ignore and let go away but some people's minds focus on a thought and won't let it go. That makes seeing those images troubling because now they will be fighting temptation all day.
     

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