this unhealthy behavior has to stop

I don't think there's scientific evidence. But there doesn't have to be. Scientism is a cult many times, sadly. I've practiced semen retention before using the Mantak Chia techniques and I know it works. I had two heart orgasms... Never had a head orgasm, but it's amazing how it changes you in all aspects. I don't care if the Ayurveda equivalence to blood drops and food is correct. That's trivial to me because I know there's something to it. To try to validate it with "science" is what's childish. Try it for yourself, if it doesn't work, so be it. Just be careful. I think Chia warns the techniques can be harmful. Better see and practice with an experienced credited teacher.

 

I agree. I've never seen the idea of semen retention as a "thing". Genetics come into play with a lot as well as diet and exercise to maintain your health. The point of nofap is to break unhealthy habits (porn & masturbation). Neither are good things. If someone has a wet dream, I think that should be welcomed as success because if you're fapping and looking at porn - you probably don't even get a wet dream. I view it as a sign that the body is normalizing itself. Same with naturally having an orgasm.

 

Hmm. Well you might have retained your semen, although I agree with the OP about the aleged efficacy of that!

But two orgasms flooding the brain with dopamine is not conducive to porn recovery!

 

I don't have scientific evidence. There's no scientific evidence of every general true proposition, nor there can be, nor there has to be.

I don't know about other schools or ideas of semen retention, but with Chia's techniques, you do get orgasms, just not ejaculation. Also, the orgasms you get are much more stronger and lasting than regular orgasms. My heart orgamsms lasted like five minutes+ each.

Others ideas is that you get other benefits from practicing celibacy, and that sex should be only for procreation, and this allows you to get closer to a religious or spiritual ideal. With time this isn't just an ethical ideal but should give you peace of mind and make you a more ethical person in actual practical matters.

 

That was many years ago. I'm not longer practicing using Chia's techniques. Also, you aren't supposed to use porn for this necessarily and preferably. As you may imagine in the times of the ancient taoists porn didn't even exist.

 

Of course. But this is a porn recovery site and that is at the centre of all we do. For people that frequent this site, to pursue these intense orgasms lasting for many minutes is anathema. This will damage their reward circuit even more!

 

Yes. Bad idea. Better stick to pure PMO for those of us in here. It's what I'm doing...

 

I disagree with your post, OP. As I see things the idea of semen retention isn't to say ejaculating is bad for you. If you do it with your partner, in the right frequency, it should be healthy for you. Semen retention, on the other side, should be used by those who want to achieve higher succes in one particular area of their lives; that doesn't involve sexually getting involved with women. For example an academic that wants to solely focus on his studies and doesn't want to get "distracted" by women.
As you see, it is just a matter of viewpoint. Now, personally, I think having sex is overall healthier(that is, for reproduction, at least), but one shouldn't discard semen retention as totally unhealthy. On a side note, it is certainly better than PM, plus it keeps the sexual drive that no PM gives you.
So if you want to marry, have chidren etc. then it is probably a good idea to stick with only ejaculate through partner, which is very healthy in most cases.

 

It's not the same as having periods at all. Women have a hormonal cycle that causes us to add to the womb lining, release an egg each month then if there's no conception flush it all out and start the process again. It happens all the time if we're healthy, not pregnant and not using birth control. Men can go decades without wet dreams, many ascetics and men of faith achieve it.

 

there is a huge difference between recovering from P&M and avoiding any O. Wetdreams are not something we can erase while being healthy because they are the very sign of our body and mind working perfectly well. I think that semen retention can have benefits but some ppl are simply extremists about it cause even without wetdreams, there is always a little bit of leaking during the night and spermatozoons are dying after 3 weeks anyway. Fighting wetdreams would be like a gay trying to reject his homosexuality and I don't believe that it will bring you either improvements or happiness

 

People seem to love asceticism, hence the semen retention movement. Not blowing your load as the end all be all.

 

I feel the same way. When I am doing P and M all the time, I barely get morning wood, let alone a wet dream.

 

Yes, there are some on this site that think that way. They seem to stick to themselves pretty much, because on the threads I look at, there is none of that talk.

 

Alots been said so I'm not going to go on. I'll say this , commen sense that natural orgasm ( sex ) or wet dreams is fine . Seamen retention sounds horrible and unnatural . People are struggling as it is let alone this semen retention. I don't care if it turned you into the hulk it's not normal .

By the way I've gone 8 days without fap. My urges right now are going through the roof. There's a huge discussion between shaitan and my mind . I keep thinking of watching porn , I don't want to relapse , must ....fight...on....must ...not....give....in.....someone talk to me , aghhhhhhhhh

 

Yeah because people are so much healthier today, right?

you can control your dreams with lots of practice. when mastered you can prevent wet dreams and ejaculation entirely.

 

Whatever floats your boat. In the end it is all about personal development. If it works for you good. If it doesn't try something else. Those who project their doctrines on others forcibly are fools.