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Discussion in 'New to NoFap' started by Love life family, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. Love life family

    Love life family Fapstronaut

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    Hello all, Im putting my best foot forward in relieving myself of this primal stupidity that has plagued my life for 20 years. Im 37 years old, have a very beautiful, sexy, intelligent wife, two wonderful kids and still, I fall into my hell, leaving my soul feeling rotten and dry, end up treating my family like garbage, and cycle through heavy depression.

    I am an adrenaline junky, my profession is an arborist, so daily I am feeling the rush of climbing 120' trees and swinging around with a chainsaw. When Im not in a tree, Im bored and seeking a rush from games or other things. This can be dangerous for me in the porn world because I can find myself seeing things I shouldn't be seeking. I know I need help but Ive all but given up. Ive cried my heart out to "god", whatever that is, my faith isn't very strong that theres anything "out there" to help me, as Ive sincerely asked and still I fall to my knees, like a little bitch that can't say no. My heart feels dead and my head wants to explode, I have a hard time focusing if Im feeling at all horny, and all I can do sometimes is wait for the wife to leave so I can rush to whatever internet is provided.

    I have given up a smart phone and only use a flip phone. This helps a lot but its not enough. I don't know how to not have any access at all to the internet, its just everywhere. Ive gone to sex AA and I guess that feels good to see Im not alone, but the 12 steps always just seems impossible. Im stuck on not wanting to quit enough to do them. So I guess the question is, how can I want to want to? Its too good, it feels too good, its like the time I got poison oak, and I knew that running hot water on it will compound it and make it 100x worse, but there I go, every time I got in the shower, I would crank the heat up and scald my skin because it felt SO GOOD. I suffered from that choice for three months with boils and large zits but the next time I got poison oak, I did it again. I don't know how to say no to things that feel so good.

    While I know my wife (8 years married) supports me, she's never threatened to leave me, but were pretty honest about it, I know and can feel the void of vulnerability that sits between us, and I hate it because I love her so much. I can't cross the chasm.

    So thats a bit of me, I hope you guys can help.
     
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  2. What do you want? I'm not being a smart ass, just getting you to focus.
    Think about what you really want, you have to have a reason to help give you strength and focus.
    Read and learn here if you haven't already. Do it a lot. There is a wealth of experience here, as sad as it is, and people willing to help with their experience.
    Make a plan, write it down, make it as solid as you can. Share it with your wife and discuss it, she probably has some great input.
    Make an emergency plan for when things get hard, because they will. Keep in mind the hard times do pass.
    Stay open with your wife and honest. Be honest with yourself.
    Keep asking questions here and come here if you are having a hard time.
    Welcome to the community. We are all fighting together.
     
  3. Love life family

    Love life family Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for reaching out Mr Fox.

    What I want I guess depends on my mood. Right now, I want to beat this. Right now I want to tap into my creative side and run like the wind into life. Right now I want to be free. But I know right now goes away. and then I want something totally different. Im starting to see that I need to objectively attack this thing, defining my weapons and defining my parameters. Ive never really tried I guess.

    What my true heart desires, is to be able to know that my kids have an honorable father that would never let them down because he's a warrior of truth and justice. I can't imagine the day they are old enough to realize my battle and what it means. I want healing from the scars that run deep into my soul. I want my soul mate to be able to get home, see me sitting on the computer and not have to divert her eyes from mine. She always knows, she can reach right into my mind.

    Ive read a bit on this subject over the years, I feel like I have a decent grasp on the science of it, from hormones to brain pathways, to triggers and responses. From prefrontal cortex vs primordial brain. Ive tried to get counseling but I can't really afford it, my insurance doesn't really cover it, and I don't have much faith a random psyche can give me much.

    Im going to run with your suggestion, "make a plan, write it down, make it solid as I can". I like the sound of that. I don't think Ive ever learned to do that, I tend to just do what I want.

    I know its impossible to really see ourselves and it takes others to reflect what they see back to us to really grasp what we are, almost as if our actions are somehow hidden from us.

    Thanks for the welcome, thanks for fighting this and not laying down your armor. I have hope.
     
  4. Great to hear. Listen, you can do this. Hear it, you can do this. Know it, you can do this.
    Best wishes brother.
     
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  5. Quietking

    Quietking Fapstronaut

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    Yes, you can do this! Just one cent from me. Guilt and pride are two sides of the same coin called ego. Neither is helpful when it comes to living in the present and remaining calm and vigilant, which is what it really boils down to in dealing with our negative habit patterns. If our previous habits have brought us to here and now and made us deal with whatever that we are dealing with, let's be sure our right actions from here on will direct us towards a better, meaningful life. Best wishes bro!
     
  6. LakeMichigan

    LakeMichigan Fapstronaut

    Therapist, 12 steps program or nofap these are all diffetent tools to reach deep within us and deal with the stuff we have been avoiding and once we deal with it we will stop medicating ourselves. Keep coming , read and write generously and you will find the reasons for your wanting to want.

    Good luck!
     
  7. Jerome_V

    Jerome_V New Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for sharing your story brother.
    Much of your situation sounds similar to mine. Both the good and not so good stuff. Have been in this quagmire 20+ years and have found myself in places online where no one should be (morally or legally). It’s a second identity and it’s crap. I’m done with it. It’s not me. It’s crushed me.
    I’ve found it a huge help to know I’m not the only one in this situation, which reading these forums has provided. Just cause we feel like scumbags doesn’t mean we are, or have to be. It’s possible to break out and do better. We can redeem ourselves.
    More practically, have found it helpful to keep reminding myself that this is no different to quitting cigarettes, or other drugs for that matter. Maybe it takes a few decent tries before it sticks.
    My mind subtly tries to rationalise why I should relapse. It knows my weaknesses. My plan has been to identify high risk relapse times (for me, mornings when wife at gym, or late when everyones asleep, etc) and make sure I have no access, or am suitably distracted. Or even just be mindful that I’m in a risk time that I need to ride through.
    I’ve made NoFap the homepage on the browser I usually use to access P. First thing I see if I open it.
    I’ve put a handful of games apps on my phone- lots of activity and colours. Use those to ride through urges; try to hit some dopamine receptors for 5min.
    I’ve also made it my mantra- to repeat over and over when feeling at risk of relapse: “Never again. Not going back to hell”. There is no convincing reason to relapse.

    At the moment I’m 7 days off it. Not a long time, but already am feeling more on top of it than past attempts. Reckon this is my 4th real attempt.
    Took me half a dozen times to quit smoking, but I did it. I can do this.

    Hang in there man and keep trying. Picture how good it’ll feel to be free.
    We’ve got your back.
     
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  8. Love life family

    Love life family Fapstronaut

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    Wow thanks so much Jerome, I can honestly say Ive never felt someone thats going through the same thing right here with me, but wow. Ive felt pretty alone for a long time. So glad to be here. Thankful!
     
  9. 2 reasons I was able to stop. Both HUGE IMO. Without either i feel there would have been no way for me to pull out of my nose dive.

    The first reason was i truly hated living a secret life of shame.

    The second, my wife.

    These two reasons combined is why I haven't used P or M for 56 days. That isn't to say it has been easy because it hasn't but her continued support(although it may not feel like it at times which i think is normal) has made me realize I've got too much to lose to not let go of the shame I carry and commit to recovery.

    She gave me an ultimatum when I confessed my addiction to her. She also showed me nofap. I can confidently say if it were not for her I would still be living in a world of shame and emptiness.

    She has taken the time to learn about my addiction. Trys to understand my perspective. Trys to understand how it relates to her. Trys to understand how to deal with the betrayal trauma I have caused her. A truly remarkable woman.

    Great way to put it I think. It's about the only feeling I was able to help my wife relate to the feeling that happens before using P since she was a smoker in the past.

    All very helpful techniques.

    Does your wife know anything about nofap or your addiction?
     
  10. Jerome_V

    Jerome_V New Fapstronaut

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  11. Love life family

    Love life family Fapstronaut

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    Thanks John, Im on it! Im ready for my brain off gutter.
     
  12. Welcome to the community. It's not an easy battle for sure.
    I saw you said that you haven't expressed this to your wife yet. In this case I am happy you are hear to read and learn from those of us who have made that mistake and those who have opened up.
    I'm sure you are thinking about it. Please keep reading here a lot.
    Best wishes to you both brother.
     
  13. Love life family

    Love life family Fapstronaut

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    Thats Jerome who hasn't told his wife, my wife found out pretty early in our relationship, luckily she is pretty understanding of male sexuality and addictive behaviors, so has been mostly supporting of me as long as Im not accepting that behavior. We've been married 8 years so its nothing new for our relationship, me being on this site however is the most pro-active thing Ive done to QUIT. I guess Ive never thought quitting was really an option but Im so encouraged by you guys on here, I truly felt alone in my struggle.
     

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