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Similarity Between Porn and Online Dating

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by Deleted Account, Sep 5, 2018.

  1. Fair enough but I'm confused why you think that anyone on e-Harmony don't want the same thing as you. In fact, I'd think that they'd match you with someone who wants the same thing as you.
     
  2. Hi,

    Pretty familiar with online dating. Never did Tinder, it was just coming on the scene and at the time seemed like a hot or not hook-up site for millenials to me. But I did match.com, OkCupid, and e-Harmony. Met my wife on e-Harmony. She contacted me. I really liked that site for various reasons which I can expand on if you like. But, from what you're saying, if you don't want to get married, I would suggest OkCupid. In the area I live, there were lots of people looking for relationships but not so much marriage. I would say on e-Harmony, you're likely to find people of the marrying mentality and you may not get many matches there. You may even get rejected. Yes, e-Harmony asks you to answer questions about yourself and if you look to non-committal to its algorithm, it will flat out deny you saying it can't help you find what you're looking for.

    OkCupid had at the time four categories you could put yourself into for what you're looking for. You could select multiple categories. These were:

    long-term dating
    short-term dating
    casual sex
    friendship

    Even if you don't want to get married, the correct answer is always long-term dating. Short-term dating, when coming from a guy gets interpreted as just wanting sex. Casual sex, well, that's obvious, and friendship won't get you too far because, well, that's just not what the site is for. Even though I would advise you to say long-term dating, go ahead and ask plenty of women out who say short-term dating, it doesn't necessarily have the same inference when coming from a woman.

    E-Harmony has the advantage that it compels the woman to do more than wait to get asked out because the "universe" of the dating pool is not flat (that is, not all men see all women all the time and vice-versa). She can only see a few matches at a time just like you.

    OkCupid is a great site for dating and, if you consider yourself to be different or quirky in any way, you'll still have luck there. There is a lot of variety of folks and its algorithms compel you to provide details about yourself for matching purposes. The downside is, it's a flat universe so you'll have to do most all of the asking out.

    Match.com, although I had a few fun short-term relationships while I was early dating there, is a site where people put in very little information about themselves and the goal of everyone seems to be to just look like everyone else. Everyone's profile says they "work hard and play hard" and they want "someone who will make them laugh" and that's about it.

    At least all of this is true in the area I live which is a high-powered, educated city of the self-important which will remain unnamed :)

    Hope this helps. Good luck out there and enjoy yourself.
    Peace,
    -Quinn
     
  3. Well, and today on Plenty of Fish I found out about fake profiles trying to get my personal information. Guess it's not so much "fun". And really horrible for getting me in the porn-searching mindset. Almost thought I was going to go through with a "hookup" that turned out to be fake
     
  4. Thanks Quinn, I appreciate the perspective. Really the point for me, again, is just to step out of my comfort zone regarding dating. I'm not expecting anything from these sites, other than me doing something that is out of my comfort zone. The result doesn't matter. I much prefer the "real" world. (But I also have to step out of my comfort zone there too). So, yeah, I don't want nor expect a wife out of any of this, so E-Harmony isn't going to be for me. I just want to do the free sites, where I can practice, that's all. And I suppose just when it comes to dating in general, the result doesn't matter. It's the process that matters, doing something I haven't tried before, getting better, conquering a fear
     
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  5. PornFreedomFighter

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    Yeah porn and online dating are super similar in terms of that searching mindset. Maybe meet girls the old fashion way by walking up and saying hello? If you don't know how, there's ton of resources online. Hit me up and I can share more. Good luck bro!
     
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  6. I had the exact same experience, man. I set up a Plenty of Fish profile and binged for about 24 hours. It felt the same way it does when I'm watching porn. And it fucked with my head in a similar way too. I got all honed into focusing on women's bodies and obsessing about sex. It also left me with a similar feeling of emptiness and aloneness. I'd stay away. That shit's dangerous.
     
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  7. Hi Salvacion. Yeah it's horrible. Yesterday I was playing around on POF all day while I was at work. That's new, that I would be doing something like that during work. Not good. Yeah I definitely feel more empty and alone now. What was supposed to be a good way to "meet someone" turned out to be just another disappointment
     
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  8. These sites know how to lock into our brains' reward mechanisms. Maybe some folks can use them responsibly, but not this addict.
     
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  9. PornFreedomFighter, how do you go about hitting it off with women?
     
  10. I'm having a real hard time with the online dating sites, binging, etc., and then leading to porn the last four days. I think I need to give it up completely, and just concentrate my energies on the real world. Kind of sad, because I was thinking that even online dating was stepping out of my comfort zone. Well, now I've tried it, and the costs outweigh the benefits in my opinion. At least I tried. Now I can leave it behind, get back on a NoFap streak, and work at meeting women in the real world. Looking for some moral support!
     
  11. Right on, man. It was an experiment, and now you have your results: it doesn't work for you. It doesn't work for me either, so you're not alone in that, man. Now you know. That's a form of success.
     
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  12. Thanks a bunch Salvacion, very well put! Appreciate it!
     
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  13. Too bad online dating did not work out for you guys, like it has been for me. It's very easy to think about relapsing when you are scrolling, and swiping through a wall of beautiful girls. What stops me from relapsing right now, is the messages! When you are connecting and engaging with these girls then you dont need to fap over them. Why would you when you can potentially meet them in real life? It would be a waste of energy and you would just fall back into PMO patterns. The return of ED stopping you from having sex its just not worth it.
     
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  14. Hi Ninja, that's great that it's working well for you! I'm just not in the same place right now. I notice that you have a good NoFap streak going. I wonder if because you're more "rebooted" than me, you're having an easier time with online dating? At this point, I'm fine with just focusing on real-world women and dating. However, when you're at a club, "scoping out the hotties", that doesn't necessarily help with NoFap either :rolleyes:
     
  15. lovelyDay

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    I understand your arguments, but if you ask me: it is worth of trying.
     
  16. Great post @TheMightyQuinn. Sounds like you're NoFap's online dating expert :emoji_wink:

    Match.com seems to attract creeps. James Holmes had an account and there's a few stories of women being raped and/or murdered by their dates. It suprises me that the site is going, I expect most of the women on there are fake. What kind of woman would go on a site that has a history of having members who are criminals? If I was dating I was dating I'd use eHarmony or ChristianCafe.
     
  17. I have used match.com for years I haven’t experienced any of that stuff? Maybe the U.K. version is better? I already picked up one phone number and talking to another girl on there.

    My experience with eHarmony was not good last time I tried. It was full of fake profiles, nobody responded. I think the fact that you are forced to answer hundreds of questions before you can use the website scares many people off. Who wants to sit an exam when you have dating apps that allow you to chat instantly after a few minutes? And eHarmony is locked behind a paywall you can’t talk or do anything unless you pay. Match.com also has a paywall but in my experience there are more real people. And they actually talk unlike eHarmony.
     
  18. No worse. Most of the news stories come from the UK site. I guess a man is more likely than a woman to kidnap, rape or murder so maybe it won't effect you as as much.
     
  19. I dunno i haven't seen any of that stuff and we are both from the UK :D Have you tried the site personally, because i'm using it right now and its working for me. I think every dating app is going to have some sort of horror stories that is just the nature of it. I don't think its isolated to just one platform. Personally i think that POF and Bumble are much worse. POF is just full of fake profiles, cam girls and scammers these days. And Bumble is full of time wasters. You rarely get matches and when you do the girls rarely talk. And if they do talk its only like one response and then they never talk again. At least on Tinder, you can have actual "conversations" which lead to phone numbers and dates...

    There have been quite a lot of rape/murder news articles lately here, but from what i have read its just being random people. They did not meet through any dating apps, it was encounters in real life. Clearly this country has many problems at the moment..
     
  20. No I haven't used the site. I'm not dating now so there's no need. You do have horror stories with other sites but none of those horror stories include illegal activities. Going on a date with a rude or arrogant person isn't nice but it's a lot better than dating someone who plans to murder you at the end of the date. As far as I know the only other site that has similar stories is Tinder.
     

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