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How far back does a relapse put you?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by rebooterer, Apr 23, 2014.

  1. rebooterer

    rebooterer Fapstronaut

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    Hello all, wondering in your experiences how far back a relapse puts you?

    I made it to 56 days in my reboot, with minimal sporadic 'testing' (M to sensation-only to see if it achieves a full-hard erection, then stop) throughout that time, seeing definite improvement in the stiffness and duration of my erections when I did test.

    This weekend I came home from the bar and, still horny about a girl I could've picked up (but didn't, partly over fears of a repeated PIED in the moment), started to touch myself then let that escalate into edging to P then accidentally went over the edge - PMO.

    Feel terrible and ashamed as I felt I was getting really close to being "healed", and am worried I've now taken a huge step back in my reboot. If I get back on the horse immediately, can this be a blip with no physiological/rewiring/reboot effect? In your experience/knowledge, how does one relapse like this effect us???

    Thanks!!!!!!
     
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  2. CEO

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    I saw this article from 'your brain on porn'

    "One of the most often asked questions is: "I've just relapsed, does this mean I am starting over at Day 1?" The simple answer is, "no." The days you spent not using porn have altered your brain in positive ways. Every time you say "no" to your porn habit, it strengthens your executive-control brain circuits and weakens your addiction circuits. Is an obese dieter back to day 1 because he pigged out on the weekend? No. Neither are you. Simply learn from the relapse, expect a strong chaser effect for a few days, take steps to prevent a similar one in the future, and start again."

    Best of luck !
     
  3. johnnnnni

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    I guess it different for everyone. I dont consider edging or looking at a few pics a relapse. A relapse is opening a porn site and M to the videos. Thats when you have gone too far.
     
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  4. Time4aChange

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    That's almost 2 months clean! All that was not for nothing. Keep up the good work! You've made it this far, you know you can do it again, and then some. Stay strong!
     
  5. It depends on the nature of the relapse. Like a previous poster said, you aren't going to ruin 2 months of hard work in a single fap session or even a couple.

    The relapses I have where I'm edging for several hours tend to be very destructive. But if it's simply "get in, get out" - where I'll look at something for a couple of minutes - the effects aren't as bad.

    You have to look at it from this perspective. If you're addicted to porn and accepting the reality of the situation, you're already many times better than you used to be. You went two months without PMO AND you're having interactions with women. That puts you ahead of 99 percent of this forum, myself included. Be strong, faperer! You are the greatest masturbating tennis player of all time.
     
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  7. rebooterer

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    So I PMOed again today, five (clean) days after my first relapse. Maybe I let myself slip feeling overconfident/safe/comfortable from having full, hard erections once or twice this week while just lazing around in bed and having sexy thoughts (no touch), even after the first relapse.

    Anyway, that was this morning. I 'tested' tonight M to sensation-only to see erection quality and I couldn't really get it up to full; it was like 80% and subsided quickly. Shit! Maybe it was a one-off poor test because it was shortly after my last O (12 hrs) and so I was satiated? If not, this may have set me back to like reboot-day-20 quality test results. Ahhh!!!
     
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  8. thepersonathome

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    In my opinion the answer would be no and Look at it this way.
    You weigh 290 pounds and you want to lose 90 pounds because you feel that you have a problem. The method you are using to work out assures you that you lose 1 pound a day. During this period you cannot eat any junk food but it's hard so you are not going to eat junk food for the next 90 days. You have not eaten any junk food within the past 56 days so now you weigh 234. Unfortunately, in a drunken stupor you ate some junk food maybe a bag of chips is what you did whereas edging to porn for 5 hours would be two bags of chips, 10 cookies and an enormous chocolate cake. What you did however did set you back in your diet. That bag of chips made you gain 4 pounds per say. Now you weigh 238.
    So basically those 56 days did not go to waste. You were doing great and you can do it again!
     
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  9. rebooterer

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    Clearly having a chaser effect. PMOed 3 times today (to fantasy, no computer) even though I consciously told and wrote down to myself to stay strong and restart fresh. Jeezzz. The relapse def did have some effect deep down...where has my will to resist gone? 56 days, now like 56 minutes!!
     
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  10. rebooterer

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    Hello,

    What are your experiences/what do you make of a ‘wet dream’ in a reboot?

    I read this page (http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/wet-dreams) and see that guys interpret them differently. I just had what might have been the first in my life, after a 56 day streak - a week of relapse/chaser - now into an 11+ day streak.

    My first instinct is to interpret it as a positive, healthy sign of progress. The logic being that cutting out PMO allows body to reorient itself to natural functions-processes-stimulus-etc. That I had a wet dream (something I can’t even remember ever having before – maybe zero or once or twice in my life) is a clear sign that transformation is taking place/that my change in routines is having an effect.

    To recap, in Feb-Apr I was on a 56-day reboot that was relatively hard-mode (drastically cut back facebook pic surfing and porn video watching, though not quite to zero, and difficult to avoid random fantasy tangents throughout the day) and was seeing improvements in erection stiffness/durability when I periodically ‘tested’ (M to sensation only, then stop when erection achieved). A couple weeks ago my discipline lapsed and I over-edged to pics – PMO. I then PMOed (to fantasy) 2 more days that week (3x each of those following 2 days) – chaser effect, I presume.

    I resolved to crack down and not lose my progress. Since then I’ve had a great 11 days of zero touch and very good about shutting the computer if I drift into too much facebook pic searching (sexy or not).

    Tonight I came back after work, stumbled upon an article I was reading that had some sexual references, got hard, then touched myself with literally just 2-3 strokes (first touch in this streak), and had some slight precum a minute or two later. I passed out for an hour nap then woke up with my sheets under me quite wet with what I believe to be a wet dream. (It wasn't totally out of nowhere as I had these sexual thoughts/slight bit of arousal prior to nodding off, but wow, nothing that would have me expecting that!) Wet dream!
     
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  11. rebooterer

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    Going out and interacting with girls seems to be my trigger! LOL. What to do about that???

    ... it's a bit of a catch 22 b/c I need to be out there to try to rewire, but if I don't actually get action then I'm still thinking about it!! It's like the possibility of a hookup gets me honry and fantasizing about sex even when I get home/the next day, and puts me in danger of relapsing.

    Recap - after my first 56 days rebooting I relapsed the day after going out to a bar thinking about a girl could've picke dup. Had some chasers. ...Then got back on the reboot with a really good 21 days til now. After week 1 w zero touch/zero artificial stim whatsoever I was getting decent morning woods any day I woke up without an alarm, had a wet dream for maybe the first time ever, and a pretty decent test result to sensation-only after 2 weeks. Went out to a bar last night for the first time since my last relapse and like the exact same thing!!!...today couldn't help myself, was edging a bit, went over the edge accidentally, then followed that up with two chasers - a fantasy-m-o and facebookpic-m-o.

    Hopefully even though I haven't been able to get to 90 days yet the solid streaks I'm putting in are like '3 steps forward 1 step back' and so maybe with another month or so clean I'll be good to go for summertime, given the observations I was having in this most recent reboot.
     
  12. nofepfepforlife

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    I cant put a number on how far it sets me back but it's definitely not a hard restart/reset. Id say it screws me over for about 20-30 days. My PIED is on the high end of moderate though.
     
  13. Robbie99

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    I think relapses are much worse if it seems that they are out of your control and in a sense if, "you have lost your battle on nofap". If you set a reasonable target and say on this day I will relapse - the effect of the relapse is much reduced.
     
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  14. Hisself

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    I truly believe it will have minimal/no effect IF you jump right back on and don't do it again. This includes staying away from anything that mimics relapse behavior as well as attempting to spend time around real women. I went a little over 9 months before my first relapse and then relapsed again 2 weeks later. That is 2 relapses in 310 days. I truly felt that they did not affect me but that I was on the verge of setting myself back if I allowed myself to slide back into that behavior. Don't beat yourself up and it's not about a day count in that way, you have to look at the big picture and see that if you make it say six months and that was your only relapse then it won't have an affect on your reboot. On the other hand if you relapse tomorrow and then a week later and then 3 days later and fall back into that cycle, yes you will undo your progress. The longer you go the quicker you will recover after a relapse. I felt that after 1 day I was back where I was before. Maybe not but that's how it felt. Just continue on and learn from it the best you can. Good luck.
     
  15. Idkanymore

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    Im on 25 days and I consciously wanna masturbate and stuff but I feel like ive made some progress in my social life and for me fapping is something I feel I really can choose to do or not but I wanna test wether or not I have but I think ill try to make it to 90 days instead of trying to find a way for me to "justify" relapses
     
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  16. rush limbaugh

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    One time, I went five months without porn and masturbation then gave in to temptation like a chump. Honestly, it was the best five months of my life, because I met my soul mate, and we fell in love. Our relationship, coupled with a feeling of reassuring pride stemming from my temporary success in abstaining from pornographic material, generated an empowering confidence within me which immediately fled when I relapsed. To this day, I still remember it as the most exciting, creative, and memorable portion of my life.
     
  17. Recover#wrongdeeds

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    I Was on 120 days of nofap but that I fapper 4 times in total in 2 days becouse of watching porn so I am on Day 1 again or still in better position.
    I m not feeling good.
    Plsss tell me anyone...
     
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  18. go for another 120 days bro! u did it once u can do i again, learn from the relapse but don't give up, get back up and go for another streak.
     
  19. Archangel 77

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    That sounds similar to when I met my wife. I had given up P long before I met my wife, and I even went six months without having sex with anyone I had been dating. I was still using M at the time, but when I met my wife it was overwhelming. I still think back and wonder how I feel into that trap again after God had given me such and amazing bride.

    I know part of it was my pride.
     
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  20. pmo addiction has been the toughest thing to let go, I been trying for 24 years now, but I don't give up that easy.
     
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