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Telling Her: Advice and Guidance for Telling her about my cam addicition

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by thatdude92, Oct 1, 2018.

  1. thatdude92

    thatdude92 Fapstronaut

    Hey all,

    I've been MIA on this site for a while and am approaching the point of getting ready to tell my girlfriend about my cam addiction. I'm in the process of talking with my therapist about how to do this, and I figured it'd be good to get feedback from people who have told their partners/been told about addictions by their partners. I'll just give you a run-down of my situation.

    • I've been dating this girl about 4.5 years
    • about 4 of those 4.5 years have been long distance
    • We have a VERY good relationship. Healthy by emotionally and sexually. We have been for many of our friends a "model" long distance relationship
    • I have struggled with addiction to masturbation (not really porn) for as long as I can remember
    • About a year and a half ago, I started using webcams (free/pay for). I would use them for a few days, feel terrible, delete my account, repeat every few months.
    • I told my therapist (and then had to switch therapists) about 8-10 months ago.
    • My girlfriend knows I'm in therapy, but doesn't know about my conversations about masturbation/webcams. She knows I go for anxiety/depression issues (which is still true, although focus has shifted towards this)
    • My predominant feeling is guilt. After every use. I love her but I can't really stop doing this. I thought it was related to my anxiety, which may be partially true, but it's habitual and done out of boredom/depression/whatever mood I have going on.
    • My addiction has costed me money, thousands of hours of work, sleep, and social/fun time, and helped keep my already low self esteem low. But more than anything it fills me with guilt for betraying my girlfriend and betraying my values as a feminist who values treating women with respect.
    • I don't associate my habits with her at all. I don't think I do this out of anything related to our relationship. She gives me everything I want. I just can't seem to stop.
    • I don't have relationships with any cam girls. Just kinda do it and leave. I've never put my hands on anyone else and have no plan/desire to.
    • I recently came to the realization that I cannot get better without telling her. Every time I relapse, I always make an excuse. I think the secrecy is holding me back.
    • This will completely blindside her. She has no idea any of this is happening (as we're long distance) and she'd have no reason to think it affects our relationship, because it doesn't. We have a very healthy sexual life and I really don't think it seeps in at all (she satisfies me and I don't have performance issues).
    • I worry the secrecy may hurt just as much, if not more, than the actions itself.
    That's a basic run-down. My main concerns are how to bring it up and how to start. And how to make her know this is not her fault and has everything to do with me.

    I love this woman and have always envisioned our lives together. I'm scared to lose her, particularly because of something I've already done and can't go back and get rid of. Any advice on how to best manage this situation would be greatly appreciated.
     
  2. TryingToHeal

    TryingToHeal Fapstronaut

    @AnonymousAnnaXOXO has a sample disclosure letter. Maybe that would help?

    That is awesome that you are going to tell her and be honest.
     
  3. thatdude92

    thatdude92 Fapstronaut

    Thanks. One thing I'm particularly struggling with is how to bring it up. The nature of our long distance relationship makes this a little more challenging too.
     
  4. HonestyMatters

    HonestyMatters Fapstronaut

    Have you discussed with your therapist how best approach the subject with your girlfriend? He/she may have some good ideas....

    I think you should tell her in person, face to face, if possible. Even if you only briefly describe the problem and then explain you've written a disclosure letter with more in-depth detail of problem and how you feel. I think breaking the ice in person would be better received by her and more heartfelt if you know what I mean.

    I applaud you for wanting to be honest with her. This is something I have never got from my partner and it has caused so many more problems on top of the addiction itself. Best of Luck.
     
  5. thatdude92

    thatdude92 Fapstronaut

    Yeah my therapist and I both agree in person is best, and that at her place is better, that way she wouldn't have to drive home distraught. Problem is I see no way to bring it up without completely blindsiding her. As I said, this hasn't creeped into our relationship, really just sitting in my head. I imagine she'll have no idea it's coming. I'd like to soften the blow as much as possible, but that may not be really possible
     
  6. HonestyMatters

    HonestyMatters Fapstronaut

    Yeah it's pretty hard to soften the blow. Maybe something along the lines of......

    There is something quite serious that I need to talk to you about. I know that you are going to find it extremely difficult to take and it's equally difficult for me to talk about but I think it's important that I be honest with you, because our relationship means a lot to me and I love or care for you very much. I am afraid this is going to destroy everything between us but I feel I have to be honest with you about it.....and then....I have an addiction. It's a type of sexual addiction. It started out as an addiction to masturbation many years ago but has escalated in the last 12-18 months to using online webcams....I know this is most likely very shocking and extremely hurtful to you but I do recognise it's a huge problem and I feel terrible and so guilty about it. I am trying to deal with it in therapy and intend on doing everything in my power to deal with and overcome it. I am so sorry that I have done this to you and for how this will no doubt affect you and our relationship....

    That's what I'd say. Depending on her reaction, you may not get all that out in one hit. You may need to pause....and try and comfort her and then keep going.....I'm a fairly direct person so maybe some might think that's still a bit to direct - I'm not sure....or it may even be a bit lengthy but you want to come across right.

    ....and then also go on to explain it was never your intention to hurt her and it is in no way caused by her or anything that she has done or hasn't done and that your addiction to masturbation existed long before your relationship with her....and then hear her out and try and comfort her....or you may need to give her space and let her come to terms with it....all depending on her reaction
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2018
  7. I dont have any advice but just wanted to say the advice you've already been given here is great. My ex/father of my child was a PA and its the secrecy, lies, defending the addiction, gaslighting, refusing to talk about it, leaving me in the dark, trust issues etc that were the most traumatic. Once this is all out, if she is willing to stay with you, please be there for her through her hurt. Hopefully you can get through this together openly and honestly. And like @GhostWriter said, she will be able to make an informed decision about what she can or can't deal with, and that is so, so important. Just giving her that choice is commendable. Women are empathetic and nurturing and if you can not abuse that with lies and secrecy going forward and truly allow yourself to be open and vunerable, you will be surprised how much easier your recovery can be as a team. It is in our nature to heal. Just dont abuse that because unfortunately the ones that stay will often attempt to heal someone we love at the expense of our own health and emotional wellbeing. Wishing you both the best!
     
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  8. havana19

    havana19 Fapstronaut

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    If you don't have a certified sex addiction therapist consider finding one because...the "disclosure" should be done in a therapeutic session if possible. At the very least the therapist will give you guidelines about how this disclosure should occur. I agree the secrecy is one of the main things keeping the addiction alive. Because you are long distance it is important she have some resources in place to deal with the trauma--perhaps the therapist can see her too maybe via Webx or Zoom or some means...but don't dump this on her w/o her having resources to cope.
     
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  9. thatdude92

    thatdude92 Fapstronaut

    Thank you all for your comments. All very helpful, seriously

    I don't see a CSAT therapist, which maybe down the line I can/will, but I actually like my therapist quite a bit and have some issues beyond just the masturbation stuff (which is why I went to therapy in the first place).

    I've discussed with my therapist disclosing in a session, but think it's not right for a couple of reasons. First, I think based on her personality, I think she'd rather have this conversation privately. Secondly, I don't want to tell her in my home town because I worry about her being too distraught to drive home a long way by herself. My therapist and I agree that it'd be good to give her the option to come into a session with or without me some time in the future, and I'm sure I want to talk about that in my disclosure.
     
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  10. TryingToHeal

    TryingToHeal Fapstronaut

    I really admire this. Infidelity is a huge blow and you're right, she may be too distraught to be able to safely drive home, especially if it is far. I really commend you for being so thoughtful about this and for coming clean with her voluntarily. That is awesome to see here on NoFap.
     
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  11. havana19

    havana19 Fapstronaut

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    this is the type of thing a CSAT will take into consideration, for example they often require the partner come in a separate vehicle than the addict and that she not drive herself. Robert Weiss is a therapist who speaks a lot to both other therapists and to the general public regarding how the process should be handled regarding the partner, including safety criteria for disclosure, therapy, living arrangements, etc and CPTSD. I would gain as much info as possible before setting up the disclosure with her--many partners are stunned into symptoms they never experienced before with these types of situations. Do not expect to be her source of comfort, although that temptation will be there, it will end up burdening you further in recovery and will not help her learn how to process the difficult feelings, images etc.in a safe way. I hope you both navigate this successfully and continue to be a model for others. Good luck.
     
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  12. thatdude92

    thatdude92 Fapstronaut


    Thanks for this. A lot of this is just made additionally logistically challenging because of the nature of our long distance relationship. I don't have someone who can driver her to and for 8 total hours. I'll talk to my therapist a little more about this
     

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