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What do you guys think of this quote?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Deleted Account, Oct 3, 2018.

  1. “The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Resist it, and your soul grows sick with longing for the things it has forbidden to itself, with desire for what its monstrous laws have made monstrous and unlawful.”

    ― Oscar Wilde
     
  2. Skywalker101

    Skywalker101 Fapstronaut

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    What does it mean?
     
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  3. I’ve always considered Oscar Wilde a bit of a wack job. I don’t take any of his quotes too seriously.

    But having said the I love the cynic Fredrick Nietzsche.

    Answering your question directly:

    I think Wilde was wrong. I don’t think yielding is the only way to get rid of temptation. I think we can resist and continue to resist. Over time the temptation fades and is eventually gone.
     
  4. It implies that the more you indulge your temptations (another word would be addictons), eventually you'll become sick of it and be able to stop easily. It also implies you'll eventually get sick of resisting. (gee, way to motivate people looking to get clean)

    So... yeah, I'll say this is a piss-poor thing to say. First off, while it's true that there's nothing that'll guarantee you'll break an addiction, I would imagine there is an extremely small chance (assuming this happens at all) that continuing to give in to your tempations will eventually have you saying "...and I'm sick of this. Yep. I'm done".

    We say that all the time whenever we give in to porn. After the dirty deed, it looks anywhere from uninteresting to downright disgusting, yet there's always the time where temptation will strike again.

    It's a flimsy way of looking at the things you forbid yourself. It puts faith in something that's extremely unlikely to happen. But as rational human beings (I would hope many of us are), we still have to operate under what's reasonable and sensible. I'm better off believing that one day Tinashe will come knocking on my door, asking me on a date. -.-

    I don't know about the rest of you, but I'd much prefer knowing I'm doing my damnedest to come out of the storm alive and well rather than stand outside in the hurricane with no protection whatsoever, hoping it'll end.

    EDIT: Hell, by the same logic, porn addicted folks would be less interested in porn the more they looked at it, but instead you'll find many testimonies of people stating that the things they'd view would grow in depravity just so they could experience that same dopamine high as they did when they first started masturbating to porn.

    In my opinion, this quote is only telling me Oscar Wilde has a skewed perception of reality.
     
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  5. Reverent

    Reverent Fapstronaut

    The quote is okay. But hopelessly one-dimensional. The second declarative sentence isnt always true. "Resist it (temptation), and your soul grows sick..."

    Or resist and your soul grows pure and heals. Your soul enlightens, enriches or empowers. Weaknesses become strengths, metamorphosis of the mind transpires and our souls are free from the temptations that hold us captive, no law, no desire.

    I wonder if Oscar had addictions?

    But in some ways he's right. Once I started watching video porn, I no longer had any desire to view print porn. If you want to stop watching bikini girls or soft stuff, watch hardcore. Yielding to those temptations, puts off the lesser ones. No body is going to celebrate you you haven't watch any Psubs, if you're actively watching P.
     
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  6. I think he was an alcoholic.

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    Forty years of porn and by his logic I’d be growing tired of it.

    For me: Resisting. Learning to hate it. Growing more interested in other activities.

    Not yielding.
     
  7. I agree fellas, it is one of the main quotes that pop up in my mind when I'm feeling intense urges, it is in the end a rationalization, the brain has it's sneaky ways to trigger us into our addiction.
     
  8. I think he is talking about getting fed up of the temptation eventually. Is it appropriate to our cases. Nopes. But pretty sure he isn't recommending this for every situation.
     
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  9. I think he's correct but only if you paint your temptation as 'monstrous and unlawful' in your mind. The forbidden fruit effect then starts to pull on you until you relapse.

    If we approach porn as a neutral thing that we just happen to avoid, we're safe.
     
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  10. Well, for me I have treated all my addictions the same, with bloody hatred and a desire to exterminate this manky filth from my mind. For too long have I been “putting up” with porn and it’s conniving shite for all these years, essentially trying to make peace with it but no more.

    In my mind the only way to get rid of something as powerful as this is to have a desire to do so and at the same time have some sort of hatred for it, becauseif you yield to it and aren’t resisting, what are you doing to rid it then? I will crush this addiction with my fingertips and watch it burn!

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  11. Thats what i'm talking about right there! Words of a champion :)
     
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  12. Deadlihood

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    When I was clean, I think I would have greatly agreed with this quote.
     
  13. I've heard some people say you have to reach rock bottom to want to stop an addiction or something.. you have to reach a point where you yourself just can not take it anymore and decide to change your ways/work on it. I think it's like that for some people, and that its basically the same concept. I dont think anyone here made the decision to join nofap/work on their pmo addiction or sex addiction without finally becoming nauseated with themselves and what they were doing to themselves..they were "yielding"before nofap.

    Binging is a form of yielding, you just watch hours upon hours and touch for hours, for days.. its completely nauseating, its sort of like yielding until you say no more and you start your streeak and you go for a long amount of days... its just a little different.. resets happen..

    idk..
     
  14. Contentful T

    Contentful T Fapstronaut

    I think Oscar loved his vices.
     
  15. Contentful T

    Contentful T Fapstronaut

    It means he was a closet junkie.
     
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  16. Contentful T

    Contentful T Fapstronaut

    Ya some of Oscar's quotes if not the majority are bonkers.
     
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  17. u376

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    I don't agree with this
    Try it once....if you find it harmful....then leave it
     
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  18. I think he either loved or pretended to love his addictions and thus came up with this quote. I think there's half truth in what he is saying though, with a little twisting of the words. Yielding, as in being powerless in front of the addiction isn't the best way to go for a permanent solution, although a rock bottom after yielding gives a lot of motivation to get seriously back on track. Acceptance of the core emotion behind the addiction is helpful. Resisting, as just hiding the issue, without knowing and experiencing the deeper cause is hardly sustainable in the long run. Once the core issue is healed it's not much of a fight anymore.
     

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