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Bikini photos on social media can still be as addicting as hardcore porn.

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by VirginSexGod, Oct 7, 2018.

  1. VirginSexGod

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    When I was younger, my high school crush posted some pics of herself at the beach. I went bananas and lost my shit. I was flooded with dopamine. On that same day, I went on pornhub, but none of the videos turned me on. I ended up jacking off to my crushes instagram page instead.

    The point is, you are not addicted to pixels on a screen, you are addicted to dopamine and pleasure chemicals, if a bikini picture sends you up the walls, that's a relapse. If you stare at cleavage, that's a relapse. If you have a foot fetish, and spend 5 minutes looking at that, that's a relapse.
     
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  2. Succinate

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    That's why I don't believe in porn filters. Just google the word sexy in Google to find tons of images that would sufficiently put you down. It's worse in your case, fantasizing about your crush, with provoking pics is emotionally worse than porn in my opinion.
     
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  3. RelentlessPush

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    I do see your points, but as devils advocate, can we ever be trained not to react with any dopamine to provocative pictures? Because no one will stop posting these pictures and they will be more available as time goes on, so.....I'm not even talking about pornstars or anything but your average hot friends on social media.

    Like what is the goal here concerning that because it seems like if staring at cleavage is a relapse then what should we be aiming for? Now maybe I'm not far along enough in my recovery to believe it, so correct me if I'm wrong but I think one can appreciate beauty by staring and even if you feel urges, so long as you don't switch to porn and masturbate, that's ok. Desire is simply an unescapable human emotion, while managing desire is a lifelong skill that one can harness. Doesn't mean we have to aim to be completely physiologically unaffected by things that trigger desire, because is that really possible, to rewire your brain to not be turned on by something you think is sexy?
     
  4. RelentlessPush

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    But what about when you're in a committed relationship and they want to turn you on by doing or wearing something? I'm having difficulty coming to terms with these two sides of it.
     
  5. RelentlessPush

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    Well just as an example you're saying we can be trained to the extent that we won't be turned on by cleavage and yet we can still be expected to be turned on by our significant other's cleavage if they wear something that exposes it?

    Again I'm sure my ideas of sexuality have been stunted by years of porn use so any way you can get me to understand your idea would be appreciated.
     
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  6. whoami33

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    i cant agree with you, the story you said has one downside: it just happened once.

    so you may feel and get more excited by pics of your crush in bikini but those pics and new ones of same crush does not have potential to keep you or as much people hooked and addicted like porn for years.
     
  7. Being turned on by your significant other is a good thing. :)
     
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  8. Startagain123

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    I agree, we’re human not robots... if you see a girl you find attractive then appreciate it. It’s the most natural thing in the world.... but if every time you look at a woman your turned on maybe you shouldn’t jerk off everytime.
     
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  9. RelentlessPush

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    Right so maybe that's the balance one should be aiming for. And hopefully that appreciation is just as a type of ephemeral beauty and not something your mind contorts into some sexual act you want to be doing to her, as porn would lead you to believe is the norm.
     
  10. IMO, we are all addicts for the rest of our lives. We can hardwire our brains to think different but the truth is, we will always have this addiction with us.
    We are hardwired to PMO. That will never change.
    We weren't born that way but our habits have corrupted our minds.
    We must always be careful not to bargain and compromise with ourselves and our addiction.
    It's a slippery slope if we start to think it's okay to stare at cleavage or appreciate someones beauty.
    We are all different and fighting different battles. Once upon a time I was able to stop PMO for a good while but I would look at pictures of hot celebs for hours.

    It's up to you to define what your boundaries and what you define as a relapse. If you feel that creeping on your hot friends instagram is breaking your commit, then you relapsed.
    It's all relative in our own experiences and habits.
     
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  11. I completely disagree with this. If we take everything sexually stimulating as a relapse, we'd never get anywhere with streaks. One would have to be completely numb to all sexual stimulation to succeed in the rules you've provided, which obviously an incredible amount of human beings aren't.
     
  12. GuitarAfficionado

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    The point is this: After some time, our addicted brains start misinterpreting arousal/anger/sadness, whatever emotions trigger you, as a need to PMO.

    You CAN'T wire yourself to have no arousal for a hot girl, but you also AREN'T in no way hardwired to PMO like @numbedexistence said.

    If that was the case, we would be born craving it. We molded our brains to do it, and we CAN undo it. The real hardwired part of our brains is our TRIGGERS. Like I said, you can't train yourself to not get aroused if you see a pretty girl on the bar. You can't train yourself to never be horny again in your life. What you CAN do is train yourself to not tie that stare to PMO, and also untie horniness from PMO. You can train yourself to interpret and react to things in a different way, as a non-PMOer.

    Sex is important for us, specially those who are in a relationship, and we don't need to go that extreme to quit PMO.
     
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  13. Your post is very insightful. If the mind decides something pleasurable potentially really could happen in real life, even if delusional, it may have a very strong pull. Stronger than any unrealistic situation, even if the content is seemingly hotter. But there must be a way to break the spell!
     
  14. Being able to be aroused by your SO is pretty much the whole point of NoFap.
     
  15. I used to be addicted to alcohol when I was younger. I was in AA for 2.5 years where they said the same thing. After I left AA, I went back to drinking. Over the years, my drinking tapered off. Now I rarely drink and I have little desire to drink. I don't count, but I'd guess I"ve had about 5 drinks this year. It simply isn't an issue anymore. People do get over addictions. It isn't always a lifelong issue.
     
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  16. I've heard of this happening. I think it is very much the exception rather than the rule. I've heard too many stories that went the other way.

    I haven't drunk in 27 years. I hope I would never take that risk. The stakes are too high.
     
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  17. Budh

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    I agree, just seeing a picture of a good looking woman on the internet can be a trigger as it lets off feeling good chemicals in the brain which start to lead you down the rabbit hole. I would suggest enabling an extension on your web browser that automatically blocks all images unless you want to load them. Do a web search for such an extension or add-on, they're out there.

    Also I'd suggest removing technology use as much as possible during your personal time.
     
  18. Themadfapper

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    Just keep your hands off your dick and don't stare at pornographic images with the intent of getting off or getting aroused. Yeah images of clothed whatever can turn us on or trigger us, but you got to resist the urge.
     
  19. Budh

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    A lot easier said than done, if only it was that easy for many addicts.
     
  20. Themadfapper

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    Easier for you than me it looks by your counter. The point is you can't remove all potential triggers. So you do the best you can. I think the addiction and this is a pretty good example is not just to porn, but also to masterbation
     

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