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Day 3: Is this even possible on willpower? (PMO + drugs). I'd truly appreciate any help or advice.

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by daymare, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. daymare

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    Hi guys.

    I'm on day 3 of quitting:
    - PMO (heavy user, since I was around 14, 30 now). Sessions of 8 hours straight are not uncommon, mostly during the night.
    - smoking tobacco, every day around 20 cigs.
    - smoking marijuana, every night 1 or 2 joints
    - drinking alcohol, every night around 2 or 3 cans

    Other than that I'm prescribed with dexamphetamine for AD(H)D, and with lorazepam for anxiety problems. I still use these two - though I'd like to quit, as I used to combine all these drugs to get in to this fantasy porn world. That's also the reason I stopped with all the things mentioned above. I can't just quit one of those. I feel like I have to quit more of them - to break the pattern.

    I have to tell you. Yesterday night was bad - but today - it literally feels like every inch of my body is burning.
    Like insects crawling in my skin, as if my fingers, toes; my limps are slowly being stretched out of their sockets.
    In the last hour I've been going from screaming my lungs out in a pillow and almost smashing my head into the wall, to crying on on the floor in fetal position, feeling so utterly hopeless.
    Knowing that if I relapse - I'll never be happy. I'll slowly kill myself. Emotionally (PMO), but physically also (the smoking, bad eating habits, alcohol are really taking their toll).
    I know about the way the brain works. Screaming for dopamine. Receptors that call out even louder for that hit that I deny them.

    So my question... Will this awful pain lessen?
    Is it even physically possible to resist this urge, an urge that lasts for hours and hours a day, only to stop for a short while - to return even stronger after? Is it possible, without being restrained, like in a clinic?

    Am I taking on too many things at once? I just don't know what to do anymore.

    Thanks for reading in advance, and for your time.

    Daymare
     
  2. daymare

    daymare Fapstronaut

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    Thanks a lot man... I'll try my best! 15 days - awesome. Well done man.
     
  3. Meditation Monk

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    I feel quite sad for you for using marijuana and other things. I hope one day you will break off your old habits including the pornography habit. And I wish you good luck in your recovery process mate.
     
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  4. daymare

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    Thanks a lot mate.. I'm trying right now. Close to relapsing I'm afraid. I hope I can stay strong. Thanks for your kind words.
     
  5. Meditation Monk

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    No problem. Just a bit worried about your bad habits thats all. I hope one day you will manage to break them, even with meds, lol.
     
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  6. daymare

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    Thanks man.. Yeah - I'm worried too. Yeah, those meds. They're basically drugs. Want to be free of those as well. Back to baseline. I don't even know how that feels, I guess..
     
  7. Meditation Monk

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    That's how it is at the beginning. Everyone is not sure how exactly they feel. They could be having mixed feelings about it. I know from my side of view, I will be going through a lot of pain overcoming my urges. I call them sith urges from star wars. I found a diagnosis for them. lol.
     
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  8. RelentlessPush

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    Wow this is insane. Wishing you the best. How are other aspects of your life through all this like work/school/friendships? Welcome distractions or bags full of triggers? Seriously hoping I return to see that number turn from 3 to 4, keep it up!!
     
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  10. daymare

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    @Meditation Monk @RelentlessPush

    Hey guys, thanks for being there for me and wishing me luck. I had a really, really bad relapse yesterday night. Went back to alcohol, cigarettes, took too much medication and watched and downloaded a lot, LOT of porn... I didn't sleep and I even had to cancel work today.
    Now, I'm trying to recover from this awful day, both emotionally and physically.
    I guess the only two good things are that I didn't use marijuana, so that's still a "streak", and that I came back to this forum, being open about my relapse. When I isolate, hide and don't tell others out of shame - that's when it's really, really bad.

    To answer your question, RelentlessPush: friends are welcome distractions, mostly - however when it comes to alcohol it's hard not to share a beer with them. Work - teaching piano, is a distraction too - but it's quite demanding. 50 students a week, individual lessons on 3 schools. I don't wanna sound like a nag, and I am thankful of this job - however, I do it out of necessity. Takes a lot of energy.
    I'm a composer, and I record and produce music at home. I hope to be able to earn my living doing that. But, as you probably recognize - my addictions (which started around age 14) have always restrained me from reaching my true potential. Speaking of which - since my music involves my computer, and I'm basically living on that machine when I return home - it's a BIG trigger for pornography. I'm basically an internet and computer addict too.

    Thanks for being there guys, again. How are you guys holding up?
     
  11. Meditation Monk

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    Just trying to hold it in and making it to next week. Nothing to do this weekend except just relax and be bored. Which is a big trigger for my urges. I call them my sith urges. From star wars. I am sorry that you relapsed but am hoping you will recover again soon enough.
     
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  12. vitatertot

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    Hey man, just offerin best tips I can. You're in deep. Especially since it's not just one addiction, but a lot. But, THERE IS FREEDOM. That being said, it is NOT easy. You can go a few days on willpower, as you've seen. That being said, you LITERALLY cannot continue indefinitely on willpower. You CANNOT be FREE of addictions while living THE LIFE OF AN ADDICT. Something in your life has brought you here, and you can't expect yourself to one day wake up cured because you "want" to. You have to literally change your life. Change your lifestyle. Your Habits. Your pasttimes. See a counselor. It starts with saying you're in 100 percent.
    Delete ALL of your pornography. ALL of it. ALL OF IT. Delete anything related to your porn habit, that will trigger you. Social Media is a no go. Notice your triggers and DON'T go there. Make a no tolerance policy for it. I'd get rid of coffee and caffeine too just for a while. You'll sleep better, which is important. Go to bed by 10:00/11 at the latest. Wake up by 7 am. Don't sleep in. You'll find that as you go longer and longer without ejaculating, you wake up easier. It's real weird, but you sleep better.
    CHANGE your life. If you compose music, then put it on the cloud, and work at a library. Put accountability software on ALL your devices (covenant eyes, K9), and have an accountability partner. Start a workout program. Don't overdo it so that you don't hurt yourself, start off small, but STICK WITH IT. I started off with 40 minutes of light walking a day. Cut out all junk food out of your diet. Start eating healthy. ZERO HIGH SUGAR FOODS/DRINKS. EVER. You will start to lose weight and get in shape. Get rid of all your cigarettes, lighters, vapes, whatever. All your beer.
    SEE A CSAT (Certified Sex Addiction Therapist) counselor. Start taking up another productive hobby. Find stuff to FILL your time with. Instead of making instant meals, learn to cook. Spend as much time as you can cooking. OCCUPY your time. Get involved in a church. You need to realize that you can't keep the same habits and lifestyle without staying addicted. Realize that you are not your habits, but your habits make you. No videogames/TV either. At least for a while. If you're bored, GO OUTSIDE and read a book. Stay away from the house as much as possible. I'll leave a lot of it up to your discretion, but you need to find an entirely new lifestyle, that fits around your passion (Music), and build a new life around it. Find enough stuff to pack a schedule full from morning to night, and don't give yourself bored time. Get the book Breaking the Cycle, read it, and DO ALL OF THE EXERCISES it gives you. They DO help. There's hope bro. And I say that your lifestyle is essential: I went an entire summer with I think MAYBE a single light urge. Because I was productive, because I was busy, all the time, because I ate well, because I had a new life. I went 82 days without masturbating, when I'd never even made it to a month before. That being said: I got back to college, and went back into my old habits of staying up late and playing videogames, and within a few weeks I was back on porn. I'm working on it right now, going after recovery wholeheartedly still, but your LIFESTYLE will be a huge determinator.

    Finally bro, YOU WILL RELAPSE. Don't shame yourself. Every SINGLE TIME you say no to your brain wanting addiction, you slowly rewire it. Relapsing once isn't the end of the world. Just don't binge. Every recovery plan requires a lot of trial and error. Learn from the pros, the ones who have recovered. Look at J.K. Emezi at pornreboot. Great recovery coach. the most IMPORTANT THING is that you LEARN from your relapse. Learn why you messed up, and make sure it doesn't happen again. If you need anything shoot me a message. Never giveup.

    Be smart about your recovery: It's NOT about willpower, it's about learning about your addiction and how to strategically destroy and uproot it. Fill the void with meaning, fill it with productivity and a new life.
    See ya soon.
     
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  13. It won't last forever no. New habits and the brain will rewire. Baby steps. Celebrate one day, then 3, then 7 days. Then 14. A man can withstand anything as long as it is not forever.
     

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