NoFap is unhealthy

I say it's a joke. I began PMO when I was 20 due to Sigmund Freud and college psychology. The whole notion that you become neurotic if sexual impulses are not gratified is a lie from hell. At least Freud spoke of sublimation. Our modern world doesn't even have the concept of sublimation of sexual impulse - and men are conditioned to worship orgasm. Those lies plus pornography put me in a world of bondage that was hell. You were designed to have sex in the relational covenant for bonding and procreation. Outside of that you will suffer a horrible penalty.

 

I would say compulsive, addictive fapping is unhealthy. For such people - in other words, myself - nofap is a healthy, sane and in some cases life-saving response.

 

Fapping is never healthy. Sexual stimulation and orgasm is never healthy outside of its intended purpose.

 

The only thing I know for sure is that fapping to porn or fantasy is absolutely unhealthy.

The rest is open for discussion.

 

Fapping without porn or fantasy is unhealthy.

 

Edging is where you masterbate but don’t orgasm. Most people relapse because of this. Edge then go to far and orgasm

 

That sounds interesting, if you could tell us any book about psycho or Freud id thank you

 

He has a lot of writings about sex, the unconscious and neurosis - look into it because you surely have been influenced by him whether you realize it. Sex as a panacea is Freudian. The world of sexual anarchy we live in today can in most part be attributed to him. The doctrines of Darwin, Marx and Nietzsche all add to it as well.

 

Really? Fapping without porn or fantasy is unhealthy? How so? Im just wondering why. Thanks

 

Mineral loss and esoteric/spiritual/energetical problems mostly. Vitamins with really powerful properties such as vit. D, B12, hormones, nerves, neurotransmitters, all of it is affected by masturbating. I would agree that masturbating without some kind of interpersonal bonding is harmful. When you fap you crave a sexual relationship with someone but in reality are just having sex with yourself. So frustration goes up, then we wrongly assume more masturbation will take care of that frustration, only leading to more frustration. A sexually frustrated soul is not a happy soul. The only way to relieve sexual frustration is through actual sex and the interaction of energies.

 

Dude all i can say is don't have an orgasm, if it's not to have sex with a sexual partner.

 

I think it’s because when you do have sex you might not get hard because it will be different to porn and fantasy

 

Thank you..

 

Im really trying, im on day 8, and its driving me crazy,, today is the worst day, i just wanna jack it so badly..

 

fapping is healthy but it shouldn’t be excessive and it shouldn’t be done with porn, when people say it’s healthy they mean the semen of the body should be out from time to time. I’m against this idea, because the body takes care of itself when the semen needs to be out of the body this is done automatically by the wet dream.

 

O I saw this a while ago. I think Joe Rogan's a smart guy, I don't really think he's wrong with what he's saying that there should be a balance between masturbating too much and not at all so you're just horny and craving sex all the time. If you could have that balance and not look at porn to get off then maybe it would be a good thing if you can't help but think of sex and girls and sex and sex all the time. But there are people who just don't masturbate, the ones who succeed with nofap or just people who never got into porn I guess, who would just have an insane amount of self-control because they made a commitment to not be a slave to their desires. They can be fap-free and not be a hyper-active horny human being because they become so productive with their energy. Being able to channel your sexual energy into yourself and reap the benefits of all that energy you're retaining is the ideal goal for us right? With this approach it's more go hard or go home, mostly because we here associate porn with masturbation. Joe doesn't really talk about porn here I don't think, maybe he'd answer differently if he did?